Multiple likes! “Peer-to-peer trust scores” is an elegantly practical measure. My pipe dream is to create more trustworthy citizens, but outing and penalizing the untrustworthy incentivizes trustworthiness. Solve the problems of recidivism and entropy, and poop emojis will become obsolete.
Strictly defined, yes, but it seems to apply socio-politically. A variety of human endeavors look great or even salvation-like for a while—the golden ages of Greece and Rome, the Renaissance, the American Revolution, Collectivism, Industrialization, unlocking the secrets of DNA and nuclear energy. The list goes on. In every case, weakness and corruption creep in, initial energies flag, and things fall apart without constant renewal. Your high-trust concepts are promising because trust and trustworthiness are human traits, and you’re producing ideas to stabilize and perpetuate both. It’s a challenge because humans are notorious sell-outs to self-interest, and we all eventually get old and die—both somewhat akin to entropy. Basically, system quality reflects the quality of people within it. So, I’m thinking, what produces, sustains, and perpetuates quality people?
Great article, Josh. I'm Mentor, and I am 100% with you on all of this, brother! I am ready to roll in terms of building a high-trust community where privacy and security are paramount, but social engagement, especially IRL, is rewarded.
I've already got plans for a system like this, with invitation-based membership, so trust is built in from the ground up because members are inviting in only the best people they know. And because the purpose of this platform isn't for idle chatter and gossip and venting. It's a purpose-driven platform where the members are engaging with each other on productive projects.
I want to go on about it, but it seems a little inappropriate for the comments section of your post. So I'll stop there, but I want to encourage you to go check out my website at:
This is really fascinating stuff and similar in nature to what we are trying to do. I attended the Network State Camp in October in Texas. Were you there?
My issue with Web 3 applications is adoption. My mom, for example, would not easily adopt it.
I love your idea about the game. In fact wait until you see our next article this weekend.
Do you know what collective swarm intelligence is? Trust is required to build swarms. But they are the most powerful entity arguably in the know universe.
To your point about Web 3. I'm using the term loosely, which is really the only way to use the term still. It's not like Web 3 is a thing that was designed to be what it is. It's just a label that has been slapped on to this complex of technologies that have coalesced in an ad hoc fashion over the years. I suppose the defining characteristics of Web 3 are blockchain, defi, AI, decentralization, data sovereignty, privacy control. And it's allstill just a mishmash.
What I'm envisioning is swarms of members developing a new platform from the ground up on this new technology, utilizing the existing tech stack as a foundation to launch a next gen platform designed to be easily adopted by folks like your mom.
She might not be an early adopter. Those would be the people who build the platform. By the time she comes online, it will be so much more user friendly than this shit show of a web we have right now, it will be like a breath of fresh air.
Just checked out the Network Society Camp. I wish I had attended. It looks really cool! May next year. :-)
I wasn't familiar with the term 'swarm intelligence' until I read your article, though I've been picturing it in my mind for decades. I've just been referring to it is crowdsourcing, though I knew I was thinking of something more than that — collaboration within a high-trust organization in which all the members hold a stake.
So thanks for turning me on to that term! (finally) I believe this is going to open up brand new vistas for me. Because, yeah, we are definitely tracking.
Here's a few of the aspects our respective projects have in common:
- Game theory
- Collective intelligence
- Network state
- Swarming
- Built on blockchain
- Token economy (crypto)
- Transparency
- Privacy rights
- URL to IRL
- Social scoring (rewarding engagement)
- Transformation of socioeconomic landscape
And a lot more, I think.
So I'm excited to continue the conversation. What's the best way to contact you directly?
Perhaps you should review Nimrod and the Tower of Babel. The hubris of mankind will be its ultimate demise. But I’m certain your academic stature far exceeds mine. Just my opinion of course but I’m a trust but verify kinda person.
The digital life the deep state has planned for you will not be optional. Technology is a power. If you choose not to use it then we will be like sitting ducks. Like the natives on a remote island that technology never caught up with, easily destroyed.
1) won’t be part of a high trust society then and that’s ok.
2) don’t understand the difference between centralized and decentralized
Your concern is clearly addressed in the article. We need to form better systems to combat the corrupted ones. Technology is coming for us, we need to use it to fight back or we will all be enslaved.
Your fears are reminiscent of the people against Bitcoin because “technocrats.” Do you have the same fears when you use eBay, Amazon, or get a background check for a loan? If so you probably are not the kind of person other people want in their high trust society anyway.
We are looking for others who are. That requires understanding systems and personal courage.
The digital life the deep state has planned for you will not be optional. Technology is a power. If you choose not to use it then we will be like sitting ducks. Like the natives on a remote island that technology never caught up with, easily destroyed.
Multiple likes! “Peer-to-peer trust scores” is an elegantly practical measure. My pipe dream is to create more trustworthy citizens, but outing and penalizing the untrustworthy incentivizes trustworthiness. Solve the problems of recidivism and entropy, and poop emojis will become obsolete.
Solving entropy would be nice. But isn’t that a law of thermodynamics?
Strictly defined, yes, but it seems to apply socio-politically. A variety of human endeavors look great or even salvation-like for a while—the golden ages of Greece and Rome, the Renaissance, the American Revolution, Collectivism, Industrialization, unlocking the secrets of DNA and nuclear energy. The list goes on. In every case, weakness and corruption creep in, initial energies flag, and things fall apart without constant renewal. Your high-trust concepts are promising because trust and trustworthiness are human traits, and you’re producing ideas to stabilize and perpetuate both. It’s a challenge because humans are notorious sell-outs to self-interest, and we all eventually get old and die—both somewhat akin to entropy. Basically, system quality reflects the quality of people within it. So, I’m thinking, what produces, sustains, and perpetuates quality people?
Great article, Josh. I'm Mentor, and I am 100% with you on all of this, brother! I am ready to roll in terms of building a high-trust community where privacy and security are paramount, but social engagement, especially IRL, is rewarded.
I've already got plans for a system like this, with invitation-based membership, so trust is built in from the ground up because members are inviting in only the best people they know. And because the purpose of this platform isn't for idle chatter and gossip and venting. It's a purpose-driven platform where the members are engaging with each other on productive projects.
I want to go on about it, but it seems a little inappropriate for the comments section of your post. So I'll stop there, but I want to encourage you to go check out my website at:
https://isitas.org/what-is-isitas/
Let's connect and make this happen!
Hey Mentor
This is really fascinating stuff and similar in nature to what we are trying to do. I attended the Network State Camp in October in Texas. Were you there?
My issue with Web 3 applications is adoption. My mom, for example, would not easily adopt it.
I love your idea about the game. In fact wait until you see our next article this weekend.
Do you know what collective swarm intelligence is? Trust is required to build swarms. But they are the most powerful entity arguably in the know universe.
Here is a teaser video for the game: https://youtu.be/xnI_UkkBVMs?si=gQ0VLaF9TTeocvzy
Best,
Josh Ketry
Society of Problem Solvers
To your point about Web 3. I'm using the term loosely, which is really the only way to use the term still. It's not like Web 3 is a thing that was designed to be what it is. It's just a label that has been slapped on to this complex of technologies that have coalesced in an ad hoc fashion over the years. I suppose the defining characteristics of Web 3 are blockchain, defi, AI, decentralization, data sovereignty, privacy control. And it's allstill just a mishmash.
What I'm envisioning is swarms of members developing a new platform from the ground up on this new technology, utilizing the existing tech stack as a foundation to launch a next gen platform designed to be easily adopted by folks like your mom.
She might not be an early adopter. Those would be the people who build the platform. By the time she comes online, it will be so much more user friendly than this shit show of a web we have right now, it will be like a breath of fresh air.
Looking forward to discussing further!
Just checked out the Network Society Camp. I wish I had attended. It looks really cool! May next year. :-)
I wasn't familiar with the term 'swarm intelligence' until I read your article, though I've been picturing it in my mind for decades. I've just been referring to it is crowdsourcing, though I knew I was thinking of something more than that — collaboration within a high-trust organization in which all the members hold a stake.
So thanks for turning me on to that term! (finally) I believe this is going to open up brand new vistas for me. Because, yeah, we are definitely tracking.
Here's a few of the aspects our respective projects have in common:
- Game theory
- Collective intelligence
- Network state
- Swarming
- Built on blockchain
- Token economy (crypto)
- Transparency
- Privacy rights
- URL to IRL
- Social scoring (rewarding engagement)
- Transformation of socioeconomic landscape
And a lot more, I think.
So I'm excited to continue the conversation. What's the best way to contact you directly?
Perhaps you should review Nimrod and the Tower of Babel. The hubris of mankind will be its ultimate demise. But I’m certain your academic stature far exceeds mine. Just my opinion of course but I’m a trust but verify kinda person.
A proposal for a social credit system for people who are ostensibly against social credit systems. Clever ruse.
This is worth repeating:
The digital life the deep state has planned for you will not be optional. Technology is a power. If you choose not to use it then we will be like sitting ducks. Like the natives on a remote island that technology never caught up with, easily destroyed.
Sounds like you:
1) won’t be part of a high trust society then and that’s ok.
2) don’t understand the difference between centralized and decentralized
Your concern is clearly addressed in the article. We need to form better systems to combat the corrupted ones. Technology is coming for us, we need to use it to fight back or we will all be enslaved.
Your fears are reminiscent of the people against Bitcoin because “technocrats.” Do you have the same fears when you use eBay, Amazon, or get a background check for a loan? If so you probably are not the kind of person other people want in their high trust society anyway.
We are looking for others who are. That requires understanding systems and personal courage.
Real life = freedom and the right to choose for oneself.
Digital life = SLAVERY and the complete loss of privacy.
You cannot trust government and big tech. Both are extremely money hungry.
The digital life the deep state has planned for you will not be optional. Technology is a power. If you choose not to use it then we will be like sitting ducks. Like the natives on a remote island that technology never caught up with, easily destroyed.