I'll join in where I can. Off topic, but I began rummaging your stack and left a couple comments on the carnivore diet piece. You may find them helpful.
Not at all and we don't blame you. We will post new books on here as well, and summarize here. The FB group is just an easy place to facilitate questions.
I’ve been off FB for at least ten years. I’ll never go on FB! Especially after learning how FB and Twatter interfered in elections and the CONvid propaganda they were a part of. Otherwise, I’d love to join the book club!
I will check out the FB group too. I finally went to my Good Reads site after not being to access it since I am STILL ON MY BACK UP LAPTOP.. and working on medical issues for a friend... as usual. The New Year is flowing in a different direction... still up hill battle for many of my friends who are dealing w/ medical issues which were not dealt with during "corona".. but it felt good to update my Good Reads..Have a Happy NEW YEAR. like the Bible says: Behold I make all things new again.. but then in another section .. (Ecclesiastes)..the old grump King Solomon says.. "there is nothing new under the sun".. hmm a riddle.. sort of .. take care. I will be back on later in the week, have to contend with MyChart. medical website.. a real mess. thanks:.. to a better 2023!
Any possibility of moving off FedBook to someplace else - maybe Groups.io or something like that, for threaded book club discussions? I'm not going to give ZuckerFucker my info to create a FB account, period.
I'm on it with a few other groups. One really good one got de-platformed a couple years ago. Lost a lot of contacts - it had separate rooms for each state for prepping ideas and community building. Certain people weren't happy with the success of that, it seems...
Just be aware that it's not a highly secure platform, if you're envisioning the need for that. I've read several places that probably only Matrix/Riot can be - if it's configured correctly on initial group setup, but I don't know if that's true anymore or not. There could be something newer out there that's more secure...
The people who ran said the group they were shut down with zero warning & were never really given a hard & clear reason why, that I am aware of. The group also had some restricted rooms only for active duty folks, but I don't know if the discussions that were used as an excuse to shut the group down were taking place in one of those active duty rooms or not. The general suspicion is that some glowies may have faked their way in there and started some 'hawaiian shirt' type discussions as bait so they could claim that it was legit to shut the group down - but no one really knows for sure, it was just "poof" the whole group was gone one day, and then a lot of the individual user accounts of members started getting deleted too, with no explanation. This was in June 2020. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI_d1tm9ynU
I'm not an expert on any of these platforms, but if you're looking for a "Discord-like" experience with voice/video chat, forums, etc., maybe Guilded would be an acceptable solution. If it's just secure messaging, I think Signal vs Element (formerly Riot) is the current comparison to pay attention to. Some research links for anyone who is interested in picking apart the various options:
It's not the greatest book in the world. I am embarrassed to even call it a book. At the time it was just a way for me to attempt to convey a very simple concept that for some reason people were having a hard time with. This concept would solve the Nuclear weapons crisis. That should say a lot for it. I saw your writings and thought we were thinking along the same lines. My goal is to make "Leaders" obsolete. Thanks
Sounds interesting but I always have a problem with groups that say they will remove someone for x, y, or z. I have a problem with it because it sounds like a threat. Why even go there? Why not just handle something like that if it comes up? Every situation is different so there is no point in trying to imagine a situation that could arise and make an edict on that. It's also negative-thinking. It always "gets my back up" and it's like I go out of my way to be "unaligned", to test the group to see how truly rational it is. I usually get kicked out. They usually don't get it. Often book groups are great at theory but not so great at practice. Why have rules anyway? I think it's because we are too used to being dictated to, to looking to rules to know how to behave. We don't know how to be spontaneous and organic. Rules for everything. And yet most situations are unique. Why not decide when something comes up? Ask the group what they think and see if a large majority agree to kicking them out, at the time rather than make the threat at the outset?
Suggestions- Mistakes Were Made (but not by me), by Meryl Wilsner
As a Man Thinketh, by James Allen.
Hope you join the club!
I'll join in where I can. Off topic, but I began rummaging your stack and left a couple comments on the carnivore diet piece. You may find them helpful.
Nothing is off topic! Engagement is appreciated
Great. I have a wide ranging set of interests and a tendency to go off topic. I try to at least stay tangentially related!
Is it necessary to be a member of the facebook group... I’m never going back there
Not at all and we don't blame you. We will post new books on here as well, and summarize here. The FB group is just an easy place to facilitate questions.
I’ve been off FB for at least ten years. I’ll never go on FB! Especially after learning how FB and Twatter interfered in elections and the CONvid propaganda they were a part of. Otherwise, I’d love to join the book club!
We look at it as using their own tools against them for now. But yes please do join, and stay involved in the comment section here. Thank you!
I will check out the FB group too. I finally went to my Good Reads site after not being to access it since I am STILL ON MY BACK UP LAPTOP.. and working on medical issues for a friend... as usual. The New Year is flowing in a different direction... still up hill battle for many of my friends who are dealing w/ medical issues which were not dealt with during "corona".. but it felt good to update my Good Reads..Have a Happy NEW YEAR. like the Bible says: Behold I make all things new again.. but then in another section .. (Ecclesiastes)..the old grump King Solomon says.. "there is nothing new under the sun".. hmm a riddle.. sort of .. take care. I will be back on later in the week, have to contend with MyChart. medical website.. a real mess. thanks:.. to a better 2023!
Any possibility of moving off FedBook to someplace else - maybe Groups.io or something like that, for threaded book club discussions? I'm not going to give ZuckerFucker my info to create a FB account, period.
With so many requests like this, we probably should. How do you feel about Discord?
I'm on it with a few other groups. One really good one got de-platformed a couple years ago. Lost a lot of contacts - it had separate rooms for each state for prepping ideas and community building. Certain people weren't happy with the success of that, it seems...
Just be aware that it's not a highly secure platform, if you're envisioning the need for that. I've read several places that probably only Matrix/Riot can be - if it's configured correctly on initial group setup, but I don't know if that's true anymore or not. There could be something newer out there that's more secure...
Deplatformed? I never heard of that with Discord. Did they give a reason why?
The people who ran said the group they were shut down with zero warning & were never really given a hard & clear reason why, that I am aware of. The group also had some restricted rooms only for active duty folks, but I don't know if the discussions that were used as an excuse to shut the group down were taking place in one of those active duty rooms or not. The general suspicion is that some glowies may have faked their way in there and started some 'hawaiian shirt' type discussions as bait so they could claim that it was legit to shut the group down - but no one really knows for sure, it was just "poof" the whole group was gone one day, and then a lot of the individual user accounts of members started getting deleted too, with no explanation. This was in June 2020. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI_d1tm9ynU
I heard this as well. Unfortunate. Any alternative sugestions?
I'm not an expert on any of these platforms, but if you're looking for a "Discord-like" experience with voice/video chat, forums, etc., maybe Guilded would be an acceptable solution. If it's just secure messaging, I think Signal vs Element (formerly Riot) is the current comparison to pay attention to. Some research links for anyone who is interested in picking apart the various options:
Guilded Privacy Policy: https://support.guilded.gg/hc/en-us/articles/360039235054-Privacy
https://www.reddit.com/r/guilded/comments/wodw6q/full_comparison_of_discord_vs_guilded/
https://www.reddit.com/r/guilded/comments/yjikbg/guilded_and_security/
https://getonstream.com/discord-vs-guilded/
https://restoreprivacy.com/secure-encrypted-messaging-apps/signal/
https://www.slant.co/versus/1989/31842/~signal_vs_element-formerly-riot
https://medium.com/@whmilk/here-is-a-book-i-have-placed-on-amazon-and-smashwords-e864cc0e2c60
have you read this? Do you want to?
It's not the greatest book in the world. I am embarrassed to even call it a book. At the time it was just a way for me to attempt to convey a very simple concept that for some reason people were having a hard time with. This concept would solve the Nuclear weapons crisis. That should say a lot for it. I saw your writings and thought we were thinking along the same lines. My goal is to make "Leaders" obsolete. Thanks
Exactly. Did you read this piece? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/worried-about-voter-fraud-lets-build
Sounds interesting but I always have a problem with groups that say they will remove someone for x, y, or z. I have a problem with it because it sounds like a threat. Why even go there? Why not just handle something like that if it comes up? Every situation is different so there is no point in trying to imagine a situation that could arise and make an edict on that. It's also negative-thinking. It always "gets my back up" and it's like I go out of my way to be "unaligned", to test the group to see how truly rational it is. I usually get kicked out. They usually don't get it. Often book groups are great at theory but not so great at practice. Why have rules anyway? I think it's because we are too used to being dictated to, to looking to rules to know how to behave. We don't know how to be spontaneous and organic. Rules for everything. And yet most situations are unique. Why not decide when something comes up? Ask the group what they think and see if a large majority agree to kicking them out, at the time rather than make the threat at the outset?
Power v. Force by David Hawkins