Nov 14, 2022Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
Ugh... my "to read" pile gets taller and taller! I hope you revisit this soon so I can read up on it and then understand more when others start commenting.
Nov 15, 2022Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
In this, my website, I bring together many of your concerns and how we can decentralize and empower locally... http://theSecondRevolution.com Please give it a look. Warm regards, Michael David Melio
Nov 15, 2022Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
The gorilla in the room is our taxation system. We all pay into it. And it needs a dramatic restructuring as 66% is now going to the natl govt . Compare that with 1912 when <10% of our taxes were going to the natl govt. But, to your point, any means of decentralizing political and economic power is a welcome remedy, and bitcoin (or equivalent) is helpful to that end.
I have actually seen your website before. I like the ideas, but to me they need a digital space to gain traction - create a movement - find allies and trusted collogues. We can't enforce any rules (we can't even enforce the Constitution anymore) unless we start a decentralized movement online.
The question on my mind is not how to widely disseminate it but what effect can be created by widely disseminating it ? If everyone in the nation understood these besic ideas of liberty would they care enough to take action ?
Jan 2, 2023·edited Jan 2, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
I have come to the conclusion that the primary divide in the US (and perhaps the world) is not between the “liberals” and the “conservatives” or the Democrats and Republicans or even the socialists and the capitalists. Rather, the primary divide is between those who believe that the human condition is best improved by a centralized group of “experts” or “leaders” and those who know from history that the best ways of doing things emerge, unpredictably, from the people if they allowed to be free.
I haven’t given direct democracy a lot of thought, although I tend to think that any form of democracy is probably ultimately indistinguishable from mob rule. Not that there is a better alternative means of self governance to mob rule. The best that we could do would be to limit the size and power of the mobs and limit the scope of their domain of rule.
Couldn’t we go into knowing the dangers of mob rule and addressing it with a code?
The easiest way to switch our current system without breaking it would be to turn it into a direct digital democracy - a blockchain democracy. We could fairly easily achieve this. The problem always is tyranny of the masses. But the question is - is that risk greater or less than the tyranny coming from the people who have corrupted our systems?
I’m not yet grasping the “blockchain democracy” idea (I’m kind of a gearhead) but you may well be on the right track. Do you believe that our “systems” are corrupt merely because they are presently controlled by tyrants and that if we were able to somehow displace the tyrants with “good people” that the latter would not soon devolve to tyranny and learn to defeat whatever mechanism was used to elect them?
We are going to write an article about it soon. We don't have it fully hashed out yet either, more of a query. But we do see an easy way to turn our current system into a direct democracy and stop the corruption happening in its tracks.
Ok, I’ll watch for it with interest. Maybe while you’re at it you can figure out how to crowdsource/blockchain sources of news and information that are not manipulated by the Administrative State a la TwitterFacebookGooglePBSCNNABCCBSMSNBCNYTWaPo.... As the system devolves further more people will start asking questions. How will they know where to go for answers that are not part of the massive psyop?
The systems have been corrupted in many ways. From nepotism to money in politics to horrible blackmail rings (like Epstein) to suspicion of voter fraud.
Trust in our systems can be fixed with one thing: Transparency.
But the people benefitting from the corrupted system are never going to change the system. But we could easily game it with a direct democracy, and make sweeping changes relatively quickly if we had the right tools in place.
The systems are corrupt because of a lack of transparency and accountability to the people. At least in a direct democracy all decisions would be on us.
Yes, you and I know about the “many ways” that our institutions have been profoundly corrupted as do a few million others. What percentage of the population do you figure that represents? Most people that I know are in no way willing to even consider that possibility.
You cannot vote your way out of tyranny, a longer form of this points out that the system we want to correct is controlled by the enemy. I don't understand how that system can be successfully converted to our protection from it's current state of suppression of liberty ? Should we expect that system to magically change because it's exposed to the public ?
I don't think you are understanding exactly the power of a new decentralized system. Put everything on chain and it is permanent. Just like how Bitcoin has never been hacked or fraudulent. I will try to do a better job explaining the solution in upcoming articles.
I think what @notBob is saying is "How can you install a 'new decentralized system' when the existing system oppresses any attempt at controlling it?" Its not an argument about whether the existing system is bad, it is a question about how to unseat it. Did I get that right, @notBob?
The U.S. Constitution worked quite well until the 1857 Dred Scott decision. Then the Supreme Court decided that only special people could be free. Lincoln was opposed to it. He warned of the loss of self-government to that imminent tribunal in his first inaugural address. Then the slave owners waged war on free people.
The 1860 Democratic Party platform called for the Supreme Court to determine if slavery should be allowed to expand into the territories. They lost the election but won the war, in my opinion, because the 13th Amendment nationalized slavery for crime, convict leasing, and the 14th Amendments put everyone in debt at birth “subject to” the Master Corporation… USA,Inc.
The National Banking Acts of 1863 were written by the London Bankers, so America’s money system was subject to them. Then, in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act gave a private corporation the authority to print “elastic currency” which gave them the power of money monopoly, wars, media, education and the government… along with a serious depression of the people... The Great Depression.
Teaching people their inalienable rights would be good for them.
So is that what’s next? I think we need a unifying convergence here or our movement is just a disparate smattering of ideas that don’t get any real traction.
I’m in the Raleigh NC area. I think we need to get together as decentralized groups to make things happen locally.
Ugh... my "to read" pile gets taller and taller! I hope you revisit this soon so I can read up on it and then understand more when others start commenting.
I think we are getting closer and closer to finding a solution here. Something good and huge is happening.
I like this a lot. Let us at least try it? We cannot do much worse. And I do agree time to turn the
tables and use technology as a shock collar on the DOD, etc.
I love that you used the term shock collar! ❤️👊
In this, my website, I bring together many of your concerns and how we can decentralize and empower locally... http://theSecondRevolution.com Please give it a look. Warm regards, Michael David Melio
As for banks we could do peer to peer bitcoins banks.
The gorilla in the room is our taxation system. We all pay into it. And it needs a dramatic restructuring as 66% is now going to the natl govt . Compare that with 1912 when <10% of our taxes were going to the natl govt. But, to your point, any means of decentralizing political and economic power is a welcome remedy, and bitcoin (or equivalent) is helpful to that end.
I wish you had said "elephant in the room" instead of Gorilla, because this response would have been perfect:
How do you eat an elephant?
ANS: One bite at a time. ;)
im unable to like the emoji
Ha!
I have actually seen your website before. I like the ideas, but to me they need a digital space to gain traction - create a movement - find allies and trusted collogues. We can't enforce any rules (we can't even enforce the Constitution anymore) unless we start a decentralized movement online.
I like this a lot as well. What steps does one take to get this kind of idea broadly disseminated?
The question on my mind is not how to widely disseminate it but what effect can be created by widely disseminating it ? If everyone in the nation understood these besic ideas of liberty would they care enough to take action ?
We don't need everyone to. Just a small group of us. Isn't that how the first revolution was won?
I have come to the conclusion that the primary divide in the US (and perhaps the world) is not between the “liberals” and the “conservatives” or the Democrats and Republicans or even the socialists and the capitalists. Rather, the primary divide is between those who believe that the human condition is best improved by a centralized group of “experts” or “leaders” and those who know from history that the best ways of doing things emerge, unpredictably, from the people if they allowed to be free.
What are your thoughts on a direct democracy?
I haven’t given direct democracy a lot of thought, although I tend to think that any form of democracy is probably ultimately indistinguishable from mob rule. Not that there is a better alternative means of self governance to mob rule. The best that we could do would be to limit the size and power of the mobs and limit the scope of their domain of rule.
Couldn’t we go into knowing the dangers of mob rule and addressing it with a code?
The easiest way to switch our current system without breaking it would be to turn it into a direct digital democracy - a blockchain democracy. We could fairly easily achieve this. The problem always is tyranny of the masses. But the question is - is that risk greater or less than the tyranny coming from the people who have corrupted our systems?
I’m not yet grasping the “blockchain democracy” idea (I’m kind of a gearhead) but you may well be on the right track. Do you believe that our “systems” are corrupt merely because they are presently controlled by tyrants and that if we were able to somehow displace the tyrants with “good people” that the latter would not soon devolve to tyranny and learn to defeat whatever mechanism was used to elect them?
We are going to write an article about it soon. We don't have it fully hashed out yet either, more of a query. But we do see an easy way to turn our current system into a direct democracy and stop the corruption happening in its tracks.
Ok, I’ll watch for it with interest. Maybe while you’re at it you can figure out how to crowdsource/blockchain sources of news and information that are not manipulated by the Administrative State a la TwitterFacebookGooglePBSCNNABCCBSMSNBCNYTWaPo.... As the system devolves further more people will start asking questions. How will they know where to go for answers that are not part of the massive psyop?
The systems have been corrupted in many ways. From nepotism to money in politics to horrible blackmail rings (like Epstein) to suspicion of voter fraud.
Trust in our systems can be fixed with one thing: Transparency.
But the people benefitting from the corrupted system are never going to change the system. But we could easily game it with a direct democracy, and make sweeping changes relatively quickly if we had the right tools in place.
The systems are corrupt because of a lack of transparency and accountability to the people. At least in a direct democracy all decisions would be on us.
Yes, you and I know about the “many ways” that our institutions have been profoundly corrupted as do a few million others. What percentage of the population do you figure that represents? Most people that I know are in no way willing to even consider that possibility.
You cannot vote your way out of tyranny, a longer form of this points out that the system we want to correct is controlled by the enemy. I don't understand how that system can be successfully converted to our protection from it's current state of suppression of liberty ? Should we expect that system to magically change because it's exposed to the public ?
I don't think you are understanding exactly the power of a new decentralized system. Put everything on chain and it is permanent. Just like how Bitcoin has never been hacked or fraudulent. I will try to do a better job explaining the solution in upcoming articles.
I think what @notBob is saying is "How can you install a 'new decentralized system' when the existing system oppresses any attempt at controlling it?" Its not an argument about whether the existing system is bad, it is a question about how to unseat it. Did I get that right, @notBob?
We create the new one and plug it in. If we have airtight blockchain consensus on our system we can’t be duped
The U.S. Constitution worked quite well until the 1857 Dred Scott decision. Then the Supreme Court decided that only special people could be free. Lincoln was opposed to it. He warned of the loss of self-government to that imminent tribunal in his first inaugural address. Then the slave owners waged war on free people.
The 1860 Democratic Party platform called for the Supreme Court to determine if slavery should be allowed to expand into the territories. They lost the election but won the war, in my opinion, because the 13th Amendment nationalized slavery for crime, convict leasing, and the 14th Amendments put everyone in debt at birth “subject to” the Master Corporation… USA,Inc.
The National Banking Acts of 1863 were written by the London Bankers, so America’s money system was subject to them. Then, in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act gave a private corporation the authority to print “elastic currency” which gave them the power of money monopoly, wars, media, education and the government… along with a serious depression of the people... The Great Depression.
Teaching people their inalienable rights would be good for them.
https://sovren.media/c/u-s-constitution/210998/1457914a585b58479dc86579fe739d2f
Glad to see you commented on Dr Jordan Peterson’s gathering of 2,000 here - https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/jordan-petersons-proposal-for-alternative?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1119676&post_id=101108176&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email.
So is that what’s next? I think we need a unifying convergence here or our movement is just a disparate smattering of ideas that don’t get any real traction.
I’m in the Raleigh NC area. I think we need to get together as decentralized groups to make things happen locally.