Agreed, it is very hard. The bad oils are used in restaurant cooking (they are the most cost effective), which means if we really want to avoid them, we must do most, if not all, cooking at home.
Feb 9, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
Thanks for doing a nice job of compiling all this data into a compelling essay. I hope people will be open minded and interested enough to try and prove it to themselves. It's also interesting that on a 'carnivore' way of eating, people consistently experience very little skin sensitivity to sun exposure. This has been observed now for a few years, but I don't think there's an agreed upon understanding of the mechanism. Most think it's because the disproportionate ratio of Omega 6-to-Omega 3 oils (typical of these seed oils) exacerbates oxidation in the skin and makes it much more sensitive than we have traditionally been.
And one more observation, as noted: changing successfully to, for example, a ketogenic diet - and moreso for a carnivore one - does often seem to lead people into seeing other, even unrelated areas where systematic deception and propaganda become more apparent. Once you become open to the possibility that even 'expert' and 'reliable' information could be this wrong, the scales fall from your eyes and you can't really unsee a lot of it anymore.
Dr. Joseph Mercola has been speaking out about the relationship between seed oils and skin cancer for a long time- he gets all his vitamin D from sun exposure 🌞
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This article very much confuses seed oil and vegetable oil.
Furthermore, the prominent examples of soy, corn, and palm are not unrelated.
All 3 are GMO crops by Monsanto.
All 3 are subsidized by the Farm bill.
Soy and corn are negative cost ingredients because of these subsidies. Meaning, it literally costs less and brings more profit to include the ingredients than to not include them.
This is why 90% of foods at the supermarket have soy lecithin or maltodextrin or high fructose corn syrup, often all 3.
Edit: food "scientists" are also highly propagandized into thinking that these ingredients are magical, that palm oil is the absolute best ecologically because of yield per acre, and other nonsense. It's really eye opening when I've gotten into debates about these things on Reddit.
We 100% agree about the incentivization of the "cash crops" that lead to this mess. But not all soy and not all corn are GMO. You can get these oils that are organic and still the resulting health issues remain with people who have autoimmune sensitivities. I have personally tried it.
This article clearly states "The terms “vegetable oil” and “seed oil” are often used interchangeably, even though there are slight differences."
Beans, grains, seeds, nuts and corn are all seeds (well corn is technically a flower that becomes seeds).
The one thing that isn't much different between vegetable and seed oils is the Omega acid content of both. They both skew body content.
Also, the poor health effects of vegetable oils was clearly seen before Genetic Modification was a thing.
There is no reason to separate vegetable oils and seed oils in this case when both seem to cause autoimmune flare ups in people with disorders. This article was specifically about stopping chronic health issues with people doing it for that reason.
Feb 9, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
What's your idea about black seed oil?
And how about lacto-fermented non-meat food?
I'm only reading this information and admit I really don't know.
I could be considered more than half-way to your ultimate eat meat only promotion and coming from a long life of eating all the poisons, it has been a physical revelation.
Meat promotion isn't specifically what we subscribe to.
Rather, we subscribe to the idea that if you are very sick with chronic illness an all meat diet is an easy way to pull back the curtain on our food. And an easy way to be remarkably more healthy in a short span.
We know many people who cured their severe chronic illnesses and now eat dairy, fruit, safe vegetables, and fermented vegetables. But we do not know anyone who beat their autoimmune, etc and still eat soy, seed oils, processed wheats, or preservative chemicals.
So carnivore is a way to hit reset, per say. But doesn't need to be forever. Although for some people they feel the best that way.
We see what you are doing with the gardening, and appreciate the quest. We all want the same thing, health for one another.
As for black seed oils, we do not know much about it. It doesn't seem to be in everything so we don't think it is part of the trend.
BUT - from a plant's perspective, they almost always defend their seeds with toxins. Seeds are their babies, and they cannot defend them many other ways.
Feb 11, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
Yes it is evident that meat has all nutrients needed, especially organ meats. In South Africa they did that study and found the best thing to feed babies was raw liver. ☺️so I guess us older folk are ‘meat eating dinosaurs’. Lol.
I suppose over time we can evolve ourselves to eat less meat, more fruit and soaked nuts. After studying the Breatharian way of life, I am Sure we all eat way too much. I do believe, (this is just an inner observation), that at one time we didn’t eat. That the more we used our corporeal bodies, the more we need to eat to grow muscle, become more solid. Although the Breatharians do that by themselves and inner work. ... I can’t see them chasing down a Mastodon!?! 🤔
Feb 10, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
Here we go with Scientism again or (how much are scientists being paid to lie or manipulate results). I’m sure some farmers believe them but I’m sure most know. Since when are farmers or farming supposed to be rich careers? Since the government pays them to give us pure crap. We have them up here in Canada a plenty. I called one to see if they had organic potatoes. The answer I got was “no, we don’t sell anything here, our land is strictly for a cash crop.” This was a family that went back generations and were noted for their local produce. They just pulled in the money. So when do farmers start taking responsibility for what they are putting out? We have to get back to farming without the government. I’m afraid it’s the government buying up land in Canada. For cash crops.
Feb 9, 2023Liked by The Society of Problem Solvers
It would be interesting to see a comparison between organic and non-organic as I'm sure the latter contain toxins from pesticides and herbicides. Also, I heard recently, that a change in the milling process might have something to do with it but I'm not sure how that would be and i havent had chance to research that yet.
The only seed oil we eat at home is organic rapeseed and very little of that.
Rockefeller food vs real food. Do the opposite. Whatever is being pushed, just do the opposite.
It is hard to because they sneak it into everything and disguise it. But yes, good advice.
Do not eat out.
Cook everything from scratch.
Organic, Free Range, Fair Trade.
That, plus vitamins and minerals, probiotics, and bee stings, put my RA and asthma into remission.
It takes equal amount of effort to be healthy as opposed to being ill.
I choose healthy.
:)
Love this. Let's keep encouraging each other on! 'The deck is stacked against us', I always tell my husband. We have to fight hard against it.
Agreed, it is very hard. The bad oils are used in restaurant cooking (they are the most cost effective), which means if we really want to avoid them, we must do most, if not all, cooking at home.
I try to stick exclusively to the perimeter of the grocery.
I like that idea! In my local Trader Joe's, that perimeter would be:
fruits and veg
meat
bread
dairy
some prepared cold foods
cheese
alcohol
Thanks for doing a nice job of compiling all this data into a compelling essay. I hope people will be open minded and interested enough to try and prove it to themselves. It's also interesting that on a 'carnivore' way of eating, people consistently experience very little skin sensitivity to sun exposure. This has been observed now for a few years, but I don't think there's an agreed upon understanding of the mechanism. Most think it's because the disproportionate ratio of Omega 6-to-Omega 3 oils (typical of these seed oils) exacerbates oxidation in the skin and makes it much more sensitive than we have traditionally been.
And one more observation, as noted: changing successfully to, for example, a ketogenic diet - and moreso for a carnivore one - does often seem to lead people into seeing other, even unrelated areas where systematic deception and propaganda become more apparent. Once you become open to the possibility that even 'expert' and 'reliable' information could be this wrong, the scales fall from your eyes and you can't really unsee a lot of it anymore.
It is fascinating with the sun burn stuff.
Dr. Joseph Mercola has been speaking out about the relationship between seed oils and skin cancer for a long time- he gets all his vitamin D from sun exposure 🌞
This is invaluable information.
Thank you for taking the time to organize it all with relevant charts.
Anyone looking at them can see how the government has NO regard for our health, either physical or mental.
People have been very badly injured with reckless abandon.
This article very much confuses seed oil and vegetable oil.
Furthermore, the prominent examples of soy, corn, and palm are not unrelated.
All 3 are GMO crops by Monsanto.
All 3 are subsidized by the Farm bill.
Soy and corn are negative cost ingredients because of these subsidies. Meaning, it literally costs less and brings more profit to include the ingredients than to not include them.
This is why 90% of foods at the supermarket have soy lecithin or maltodextrin or high fructose corn syrup, often all 3.
Edit: food "scientists" are also highly propagandized into thinking that these ingredients are magical, that palm oil is the absolute best ecologically because of yield per acre, and other nonsense. It's really eye opening when I've gotten into debates about these things on Reddit.
We 100% agree about the incentivization of the "cash crops" that lead to this mess. But not all soy and not all corn are GMO. You can get these oils that are organic and still the resulting health issues remain with people who have autoimmune sensitivities. I have personally tried it.
This article clearly states "The terms “vegetable oil” and “seed oil” are often used interchangeably, even though there are slight differences."
Beans, grains, seeds, nuts and corn are all seeds (well corn is technically a flower that becomes seeds).
The one thing that isn't much different between vegetable and seed oils is the Omega acid content of both. They both skew body content.
Also, the poor health effects of vegetable oils was clearly seen before Genetic Modification was a thing.
There is no reason to separate vegetable oils and seed oils in this case when both seem to cause autoimmune flare ups in people with disorders. This article was specifically about stopping chronic health issues with people doing it for that reason.
Great article, thanks for posting.
Thank you!
What's your idea about black seed oil?
And how about lacto-fermented non-meat food?
I'm only reading this information and admit I really don't know.
I could be considered more than half-way to your ultimate eat meat only promotion and coming from a long life of eating all the poisons, it has been a physical revelation.
Meat promotion isn't specifically what we subscribe to.
Rather, we subscribe to the idea that if you are very sick with chronic illness an all meat diet is an easy way to pull back the curtain on our food. And an easy way to be remarkably more healthy in a short span.
We know many people who cured their severe chronic illnesses and now eat dairy, fruit, safe vegetables, and fermented vegetables. But we do not know anyone who beat their autoimmune, etc and still eat soy, seed oils, processed wheats, or preservative chemicals.
So carnivore is a way to hit reset, per say. But doesn't need to be forever. Although for some people they feel the best that way.
We see what you are doing with the gardening, and appreciate the quest. We all want the same thing, health for one another.
As for black seed oils, we do not know much about it. It doesn't seem to be in everything so we don't think it is part of the trend.
BUT - from a plant's perspective, they almost always defend their seeds with toxins. Seeds are their babies, and they cannot defend them many other ways.
A well-rounded comment hard to distinguish in reading a few posts about the topic at hand. Thanks.
Yes it is evident that meat has all nutrients needed, especially organ meats. In South Africa they did that study and found the best thing to feed babies was raw liver. ☺️so I guess us older folk are ‘meat eating dinosaurs’. Lol.
I suppose over time we can evolve ourselves to eat less meat, more fruit and soaked nuts. After studying the Breatharian way of life, I am Sure we all eat way too much. I do believe, (this is just an inner observation), that at one time we didn’t eat. That the more we used our corporeal bodies, the more we need to eat to grow muscle, become more solid. Although the Breatharians do that by themselves and inner work. ... I can’t see them chasing down a Mastodon!?! 🤔
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ClOshwvjePj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I am wondering what lacto fermenting does to this phytoestrogen?
We would be interested to know too. We have heard good things about fermenting.
Here we go with Scientism again or (how much are scientists being paid to lie or manipulate results). I’m sure some farmers believe them but I’m sure most know. Since when are farmers or farming supposed to be rich careers? Since the government pays them to give us pure crap. We have them up here in Canada a plenty. I called one to see if they had organic potatoes. The answer I got was “no, we don’t sell anything here, our land is strictly for a cash crop.” This was a family that went back generations and were noted for their local produce. They just pulled in the money. So when do farmers start taking responsibility for what they are putting out? We have to get back to farming without the government. I’m afraid it’s the government buying up land in Canada. For cash crops.
We as consumers have a vote with our dollars. We need to take extreme ownership for that.
It would be interesting to see a comparison between organic and non-organic as I'm sure the latter contain toxins from pesticides and herbicides. Also, I heard recently, that a change in the milling process might have something to do with it but I'm not sure how that would be and i havent had chance to research that yet.
The only seed oil we eat at home is organic rapeseed and very little of that.
Lot's of nuances we should be looking into. Of course the foods with less Roundup on them should be better for us.