You had me at "leaderless." Love the possibility of a democracy run by an unlimited variety of ideas instead of the standard appeal to self-interest opening the door to corruption. Love the goal of restoring trust without which there can be no real democracy. Especially love the idea of respect from all of us for all of us, not just for those who happen to share our priorities.
False information and propaganda create fear, anger and hatred. No one does their own thinking anymore. We buy half baked opinions and blame everyone else based on our own projections, omniscience and ignorance. We are overwhelmed. Anything we can imagine is too little, too late, hopeless, and something someone else should have done already.
Our leaders claim to be helpless. Problem solving is difficult, too dangerous and it's all the voters' fault anyway. I'm sick of hearing over and over how ugly our situation is and that any attempt at change will inevitably make things worse and it will all be my fault.
You sound like a problem solver to us. We look forward to showing you how to use our collective intelligent app once it is finished being built.
LEADERLESS was going to be the name of our network state. Rules but no rulers. We changed some of the ideas now, but still are deciding what road to take from here. We made this video about it as a promo for the idea: https://youtu.be/pwNId_vuwPM
During the 1992 Presidential campaign, Ross Perot observed that: "a general lack of accountability among elected officials and those in the bureaucracy is the one specific reason that the people of America suffered…. and our only means of correction is to inspect their work and hold them accountable.”
Mr. Perot went on to note that this can easily be done with computer programs.
He called it: THE ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL.
“It is only logical that it will become our Fourth Branch of Government”, he said.
Objective reality:
the voting members of the US Congress and the State Legislatures do not have enough time to read, comprehend or debate any of the laws they vote on. They vote 100 times a day, every five minutes, while in session.
Approximate absolute facts:
Every day that the Congress and Legislatures are in session 100 new bills are introduced and distributed.
The representatives are given two weeks to review the bills before they are brought up for The Vote.
Two weeks into the session they begin voting on the Laws that were previously introduced, while newer laws are introduced.
Many of these bills are in excess of two thousand pages.
The arithmetic demonstrates that the elected representative does not have the time to even read the name of the Law much less the content of it.
Since the Representatives cannot evaluate 200 thousand pages of law speak per day, they vote the way their Party advisors tell them to vote.
This demonstrates that Representative government does not exist.
Thus, they have forfeited their delegated obligations to us, The Citizens.
And the only way to prevent these over worked and fallible people from making even more tragic mistakes, from which we, and the rest of the world, might never recover is to include ourselves in the final decision making process.
The Electronic Congress
How it works:
Before a new law, tax, or expenditure can be put on the books it must first be Ratified by the Citizens.
Existing laws can be Annulled by the same super majority required to Ratify them.
This program can be applied to every level of government and will ultimately solve every problem we have.
To prevent chaos, the basic law, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, would be exempt from review.
Mr. Perot speculated that the Founding Fathers would probably have done the same had the technology been available in their day.
Just imagine:
With a new understanding we will also be able to accommodate new proposals initiated by us, The Citizens, for program and infrastructure improvements.
We, The People, could actually direct the priorities and review the progress of the major agencies like the: CDC and NIH as well as the libraries, school boards and local police departments.
If our government truly is of the people, by the people and for the people then this is the only way forward.
How to implement it:
Start here:
Dear Mr. / Madam School Board Trustee
I write to you today in a sincere effort to help you accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.
That is I seek to help you facilitate the betterment of our schools for our children and young people.
To do this, I ask you to make the Board meeting agenda questions and the data points behind them available to me as well as all of the other taxpayers.
Upload the stack to a server where we can read, ratify and or annul the elements after log on.
In a perfect world each paragraph must have at least three possible answers: agree, disagree, no opinion at this time.
Direct democracy is a growing trend, and many companies offer these services:
hosting, voter receipts, and a running tally of totals for everyone to see.
In this way Madam Trustee you are assured that you will always have the strength of the community with you when making the decisions that really do effect the lives of our people.
I would love to, and may eventually have to, but for now I am hoping that someone with more time and an inclination to make some money off of the polling will step up and do it.
Also, proper polling requires a computer savvy pilot.
Great ideas. I’m listening. Yes to “a bottom-up, decentralized, transparent and trustworthy system that is also 100% in control of the people using it.” Emphasis on “trustworthy,” a virtue within a moral code.
For curious but natural reasons, this isn’t a popular angle, but a long view of history indicates that absent mechanisms to sustain morality and virtue—to echo John Adams—every political system, every check, and every balance can be corrupted and turned to tyranny. Democracy, republic, socialism, communism, monarchy, oligarchy, network state, it makes little difference.
This sounds trite and hackneyed to some, but any system not rooted and sustained by “Love God and love your neighbor” inevitably falls to greedy miscreants, some of whom are always among us. So, who is God, what is His perspective, and who is my neighbor? Maybe we need to answer those questions and commit to the underlying system.
I like the concepts of decentralization and direct democracy, but I struggle with a basic concept. Yes, government is evil most of the time, Larken Rose in his book "The Most Dangerous Superstition" argue that government lacks legitimacy and should therefore be disobeyed.
However, with my brainwashed frame of mind I still things that surely need to be centralized, such as roads, an electricity grid, and the rest of infrastructure that serves the community/society as a whole. And there are other examples. How can these be tackled in a decentralized way?
Great well written piece, have you thought about a seperate discussion group for the thongs discussed? Like a subreddit or discord? Would be a good starting point for implementing a more direct democracy.
We have a message board started on swarmacademy.ai but have held back a little the last few months as we are engineering a new app so the whole world can use collective intelligence together like a social media app for group problem solving.
As soon as the software is ready we plan on launching in person meetings where (hopefully) hundreds attend. People bring their problems to the group and we use the software to form collective intelligence swarms and we solve them as a group. Once this works we can implement this plan basically on any system anywhere it has support, or run for any office as one unit of people:
We plan on doing local in person meetings using the app first. We want to bridge URL and IRL. There are several Network State Meet ups this year as well as we are going to host a "problem solving party" somewhere in the North East within a few months.
We like privacy as much as the next person. But some people want to build communities and turn them into a force (swarm) online. These high trust systems are forces. Imagine 30,000,000 people behind a cause, all posting at the same time or raising funds together. Rethink the possibilities if we also had a place online where we were all verifiably us. Not with some centralized and corrupt entity like government or scanning eyeballs like World Coin, but rather decentralized trust. Sort of like ratings on ebay or amazon. Starting with just one simple trust - do you know anyone I know? Can you vouch that they are a real person? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/fixing-trust-online-and-in-person?utm_source=publication-search
Yes, I can understand that, but then why use Bitcoin? 1 of the principles of it is to do away with the need to trust. I thought that the people swarms you talk about is also about anonymity to avoid having to trust.
The anonymity principle doesn't have to be used on everything. In fact, if we mix IRL and URL we can build trust way better, keep AI and bots outs of our systems, and build communities once again.
Hard to say. We do think you should and could build trust online if you are anonymous, but the reasons to be anonymous in a swarm are much less so since you are not labeled or named when you actually swarm. You are nameless and faceless and are just the idea or answer.
Every human system we have come up with so far has been gamed by psychopaths and sadists to produce human misery, often as a side-effect of trying to do something else like enhance their own wealth or status, but sometimes out of a love for doing evil for its own sake. The problem with enabling technologies is that it enables _everybody_ and those who want to do evil or at least do not care if it happens have a much easier job of things.
Not every system. Alcoholics Anonymous. Napster. Bitcoin. Decentralized systems and transparent systems make them nearly impossible to game. You can only game an individual node, never the whole thing. Centralized systems, evil is much easier to succeed. We fix ths with better systems. As Naval Ravikant says, the sign of a good system is hand it over to your enemies to corrupt it. If they cannot, then it is a good system.
I'm really interested in how you plan to hand it over to your enemies -- and get it back when they are done. I implemented a decentrallised reputation system a few decades ago. I thought it would lead to the transparency and expose malefactors. Instead the malefactors paid people to say nice things about them. But I never thought about Alcoholics Anonymous. What a good thought. Must think some more about that, and read up on the governance structure of AA.
Check out the book the starfish and the spider. It is was spawned us to decentralize our businesses and listen to the crowd - really listen to them - do wild things like put Ferris wheels on top of 100 year old concrete grain silos, and it succeed.
Pie in the sky. I want no system which abandons cash. We already have a Constitution, it’s just been corrupted beyond imagination. We fail because most people are uninformed and unaware sheep. Corruption runs rampant because the majority ignore it.
“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.” ― Thomas Paine
Nothing will change unless people choose to educate themselves with real information. Education is key, unfortunately indoctrination has replaced this with leftist Marxist indoctrination. How you undo 60 plus years of this is almost impossible to conceive.
If a system has been corrupted then it is no longer a good system. That doesn't mean throw it out, it means fix it. And who said anything about getting rid of cash? At the government level they do almost ZERO cash transactions. Wouldn't that be better it all have on a decentralized and transparent ledger?
America seemed pie-in-the-sky once too.
Corruption runs rampant because the ways to corrupt our system have outpaced the ways to protect it. You can shove your head in the sand and scream "get off my lawn!" Or, you can realize that we need to use technology back onto the people who are tying to use it to control us.
I think there's another layer to add to your observation that corruption runs rampant because the ways to corrupt our system have outpaced the ways to protect it. I would argue that education has been specifically designed so that students are more vulnerable to corrupt messaging. So, while the understanding of human psychology by MBA programs increases, so does the vulnerability of the population through a substandard quality of education. One way to address this education quality issue as well as provide a perfect complement to your project, is my new book, which is the basis of my upcoming training program: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-what-good-Enlightenment-Performance/dp/0970507054
I get that this article is long and there are many ideas stuffed into it. I respectfully disagree - that this is Pie in the Sky. More like putting a bunch of suggestions on the table for all to see. Some of these ideas will resonate. Some won't. And thats OK. Explore the ideas that don't and use this platform to challenge, question and research for yourself. I see this article as a place for sharing, shaping and learning.
We are okay with the challenging. In fact we want people to disagree with us to swarm with us and solve problems together. Once you see the truth - that there is wisdom in crowds that can be safely extracted, and it is powerful wisdom - then you cannot deny it.
Swarming also has a side effect. Collectivism. Ayn Rands - Atlas Shrugged. When to use collectivism. When to use individulism. Truth is based on personal preference, who's platform and if the message is designed to persuade, influence, enforce. The mechanism for double speak is now in full force, with the help of AGI.
The Bitcoin community I follow - all have similar values - open source, decentralised, data security.
Individualism is paramount to running good swarms. We are anti-collectivism in the common definition, but again this is one of those words that requires defining before discussing. Otherwise it is just another label..
We cannot deny that we have collective problems, and using collective intelligence to solve collective problem is the best way.
If you are using collectivism as a way say that the group is more important than the individual, this absolutely is not the outcome that we see. But we are for constitutions or codes that protect the individual first.
Collective intelligence is not something most people have seen work or studied. But individualism is the mantra for a good collective intelligence system. True diversity of opinions get the best results
Your ideas all sound wonderful. Unfortunately you want to apply them to people. Humans as a whole are largely willfully ignorant and self absorbed. The United States with its Constitution and the ability of its citizens to vote is a perfect example of why the world is the way it is. People would rather not think or take responsibility for the greater community. They prefer to be told what to do. Voting is the mechanism to remove representatives that are not doing what the people want. However even with an approval rating of around 10% most congress persons and senators get reelected. Also there is a tendency for the worst types of individuals wanting positions of power and influence taking control of systems, think HOAs and government jobs, communist and socialist countries. I will continue to follow and support you but with all of our technological advances humanity still uses them as clubs to kill each other with.
You're right. Ignorant, self absorbed, compliant. That was me.
During 2020 lockdown - I've turned into this beast, devouring information both fake and real, facing my fears head on, and most of all unraveling the corruption from UN/WEF, to following the broken money, broken people and broken minds.
Do I know it all. No I don't.
But I boot strapped myself, when I saw western governments lockstepped into vax jabs and lockdowns.
My biggest learning curve - how English language is weaponised. How money works. How to prepare for the unpredictable.
Whilst there's 80% (my guess) still in 'dont want to know' mode, there is a growing number of 'I want to know'.
We think the number is closer to 40% are learning now. For us the language and money are big, but the most obvious corruption is our food supply. Stop eating their foods. We wrote about it a lot but you can see dozens of people we interviewed including Josh, one of our original writers, cured autoimmune diseases, clinical mental health and more.
I think 40% in learning mode is optimistic, but I can live with that.
When I first started the learning journey I got so excited I wanted to share with those around me. I got the glazed look, the I'm too busy excuse or the you're a nut case.
I learned two things from that lesson - they are not ready, because their reality differs from mine and the more I learned - the more I realized I didn't know. So its been a lone journey and I've loved every moment of it.
You're right - they're hitting us with frankenfood from every direction. We can thank Bill Gates, Monsanto and Bayer. FBI stomping on the Amish - highlights the practice of organic farming in tune with the environment.
Before Dr Vladimir Zelenko died - 2 bits of advice - look after your immune system, say no to the vax jab.
Dr Mattias Desmet helped me to understand how fear was used to hypnotise a mob into immediate compliance, using government and propaganda as the weapons.
I followed the money, to find the culprits, to study the rules and the mechanisms used to steal, to cheat, to manipulate the markets, the banks, the politicians - for governance, for power, for control.
Then I found Bitcoin and self custody.
Still trying to grasp Balaji Srinivasan's concept of network states.
Auntidote we absolutely love your origin story! Like so many of us, there is hope.
And here is some more hope - MOST people want to do good. This is testable and has been studied. Well over 95% of people will be fair and honest if given a choice. There becomes a problem called Moloch that we have written about before where systems in society get corrupted, it becomes a race to the bottom. The worst people run the system. Then normally honest people are more likely to act poorly because they think they have to in order to survive in the shitty system, We must show there is another way. By building new trustworthy system to operate on for humanity. One where we solve problems in high trust groups.
Ideal but …. The 7 deadly sins will always be with us . The 10 commandments , many a people couldn’t even tell you what they are. The nature of man goes back to Genesis.
We cannot end bad people. Rather, we must always assume they exist. So the secret to not getting your house robbed isn't to cure the world of robbers, but rather to have a security system so layered, that it is not worth it to even try to rob you.
For you as a believer in the bible it does, for me as a geologist the bible is a fairy tale, the Earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago, and we, like the world around us, were created by Mother Nature.
Having said that, if I understand the idea of the Society of problem solvers is that, among other things, it is all inclusive, anonymous, free, non-coercive. In other words, whatever you or I believe, it is our business and worth just as much as the beliefs of the other group members.
I am talking to "Brandon is not your bro", I even quoted one of his sentences.
I agree you have never stated your beliefs, which is why I explicitly stated "if I understand the idea of the Society of problem solvers" — I hope that is OK.
Let's start with the fact that all government is corrupt. If you want true freedom as an individual, government's master-slave relationship is not the answer. If you give a person more power over the government than they have over them, then they do not need any government. All the various forms of government like democracy, republic or dictatorship still have one thing in common...government and the master-slave relationship.
How do you get to what you are describing from here? What we are describing still has rules, just no ruler. There can be no master-slave relationship in a leaderless system.
We are pissing in the wind if we do not recognise that:
a) The medical profession is a corrupt mafia. The Rockefellers, Goldman Sachs and now Gates (who is intending to do with it what he did to IBM) recognise it for what it is and have colluded and harnessed it for over a century.
b) We have to recognise the fake medical heroes like Malone, Kory etc. who have been giving us a limited hangout about covid for the past 4 years for what they are: phoney manipulators.
c). They can get away with it because they censor people like me. If youtube had not taken down my video on vitamin c (together with a million others !) the scamdemic would have been over in 5 minutes.
Here is my email to Kathy Gingell of The Conservative Woman, a site which has been pushing the limited hangout narrative for the past 4 years. (Now supporting the genocide in Gaza).
Hi,
"Bird Flu" is being tee'd up for a rerun of the scam to make sure all the normies are killed off.
Today, yet again I tried to post life saving information on TCW that if known about by enough people would prevent a new plandemic.
Yet again I was thwarted. You could have published this information when I offered it to you at the beginning of the scamdemic and saved a lot of people's lives but instead you treat me like a crank.
I've finally realised that TCW is controlled opposition. Fake heroes like Malone,, Kory and your hero Trump.
We are being distracted from what is the real problem which is that the medical profession is inherently corrupt and always has been.
They will shun, hide and propagandise against simple, natural, safe, effective remedies which are legion.
In the 1850's French doctor Anselm Blanc put everything into remission with cabbage leaf wraps including 3 cases of gangrene. All cured in a few days.
See how I put months long painful, semi paralysis of the arm from the jab into remission with cabbage leaf wrap. 60% remission overnight. 100% remission after 2 more applications:
In the 1950's Dr. Klenner healed polio (even severe cases) in a few days with vitamin c. Thanks to Klenner we know that that high dose vitamin c reverses any viral disease. It can bring you back from the dead.
High dose vitamin c intravenous brings you back from the dead.
Thanks to the invention of lipospheric vitamin c we don't need to rely on the crooked medical mafia to save us from dying from Pneumonia and Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome.
Contrary to TCW, Rumble loves me! They keep emailing me to ask me to post more stuff. I have about 50 recipe videos I have not had time to post yet. (Too busy wasting my time trying to save people by posting on TCW.) I think I'll make a video about limited hangouts, controlled opposition and phoneys.
Today I was boiling with anger. It's now ice cold.
I'll start by posting this email on my website with the heading "Fuck off the conservative woman". See here for a sample.
Thanks. Yes. Unless they said at the beginning of the scam: "Take 5,000 i.u.s of vitamin d, 500mg of vitamin c, zinc, quercetin", they are phoneys. " Instead they sold us ivermectin which of course they were not allowed to prescribe. All their hand wringing about this is complete BS. Only Dr. Shiva is the real deal.
I saw quite a compelling video by Dr. Sam Bailey explaining that Ivermectin is crap too. I know some people swear it has saved them, but is that anecdotal? Even Malone has said it cured his Covid within 3 days — how much is his comments worth?
Dr, Shiva the real deal: are you sure? I heard he is the kind of guy who does not accept to be questioned/challenged. I have no experience with him, but apparently, like Malone, lawfare is also 1 of his favored methods to shut you up.
And here is Dr. Sam Bailey's video which I strongly recommend you watch, if, of course, you are prepared to keep an open mind and are interested in looking at all the angles: https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-games
Over and above all that, what is Covid-19 anyway? The symptoms they have described are numerous, and so general that they could be applied to many a disease. Furthermore, the so-called SARS-CoV-2 virus does not even exist, that is to say, it has not been shown to exist directly. Instead, it has been alleged to exist by using indirect methods based on bits of something from which they constructed an entire "virus genome" to prove that the virus exists — talk about circular arguments.
Last but not least, when Covid appeared on the scene, miraculously seasonal flu disappeared from the scene. And any critical questions and discussions about Covid were suppressed, while the statistics were manipulated in a desperate attempt to prove the existence of the virus and its effects on the population.
SO, WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY TREATING WITH IVERMECTIN IN HUMANS??
Right at the beginning of the covid scam, Shiva called it out. He said that everyone should take 5,000 i.u's of vitamin d, zinc, quercetin, vitamin c and some drops of iodine. I said pretty much the same thing but no-one's heard of me. Shiva got a bit more traction but he was taken off Twitter.
It's true that Shiva doesn't have much time for people who disagree with him but "lawfare to shut you up"? No!
It is a pleasure to read such imaginative and well-intentioned concepts, all seeking to eliminate the corruption of modern political systems. These seem to me to be based in the system of professional politicians who generally can be relied on to be power-seekers, and thus highly susceptible to progressive corruption, unafraid of detection once they are powerful enough or protected by the right ‘friends’. If we could eliminate the political class, and return to responsibility being in the hands, temporarily, of ordinary decent, experienced and honest citizens we might go a long way to re-establishing the decent society that we all long for.
How about using a system somewhat similar to the military draft? But have strong filters established to weed out the potential psychopaths, the morally unfit, the mentally incapable, and the youthfully inexperienced. Those selected, by ballot, would serve two terms of three years, first as a junior minister, learning from a senior, then a final three years as a senior minister, before retiring back to civilian life.
Of course we would need a safeguard of an upper house, say of six ballottees, using the same term structure. This group would have sole say over acceptance or rejection of legislation from the ministers. ( And that would be their sole role.). The ministers might be allowed three attempts to get it through. Failing that a referendum would be needed. There is much more detail that could be added to this concept, which for convenience’s sake I call the Athenian Option. The roles of all ballotted members would be to serve the nation, not themselves.
While the direct democracy that you describe may very well work when solving complex problems, it does not work well when wielding the powers of the state. In the end, what makes nation states or sovereign power different from corporate, NGO, non-profit, or any other organization is that the sovereign has the ability to take your freedom, up to and including your life as well as your money. Those other organizations have power, but it is limited to influence, cohesion, and most importantly, money. Sovereign problems should be limited to those problems were sovereign power is part of the primary solution. When the state steps outside that problem box, you get ineffable characters wielding sovereign power with ineffective results. This is why the government seldom does anything well or even acceptable. It is best to minimize the government's involvement in solving large societal problems directly, but rather the government should be used to set the conditions necessary for the constituents to thrive. There is a fine line where the government has a legitimate role in solving societal problems, in many cases now, the government creates the problems only to propagate and expand their sphere of control. That fine line has been blurred to a point of indistinction. Today, we live in an inverted totalitarian system where the government wields power through institutions to control the people rather than set the conditions for the sovereign people to thrive. The government needs to be separate and distinct body from the body of problem solvers.
Limiting government is a great idea too. But here is the thing, most swarms agree with that, until they get control of some of the money for creativity to improve their society (or business, or team, or union, or whatever system, as a swarm).
You are making statements that you cannot possibly know if they are true or not because you have not run a system or seen a system run with a collective intelligence system. You are making conjectures - that may be true, but based on what we have seen are not . It’s not the money that is the problem. It is the trust. The lack of transparency. The centralized corrupted system. And the direction flow of the epistemology- from the top down with two binary polarizing answers is not the way to solve societies problems. When you change that flow to the bottom up using creative problem solving and starting with the problem, it becomes very very hard to corrupt. In fact we can run some swarms and you can form a red team and try to corrupt us. The pushback you are giving is warranted, for a poorly designed system. We just think it is solvable, and not really that hard to solve.
1. What is direct democracy vs democracy . (51% vote counts applies to both). Am I missing something here.
2. How do you know if/when bots, AI become part of the count
3. Building a decentralized network such as a derivate of the Hawala system would be a worthwhile concept to explore. Perhaps Balaji Srinivasan could give us a deeper insight into this ancient practice. Lyn Alden's book 'Broken Money', touched on this form of money transaction using a ledger system, based on Trust.
Our form of direct democracy is not voting. Voting requires labels and labels lead to groupthink. You start with the problem and try to solve it as a group. Then you use confidence scores to move forward. You could do yes and no questions if you need to vote, but those should be kept to the final round and only after all members of the swarm were allowed creative answers
You had me at "leaderless." Love the possibility of a democracy run by an unlimited variety of ideas instead of the standard appeal to self-interest opening the door to corruption. Love the goal of restoring trust without which there can be no real democracy. Especially love the idea of respect from all of us for all of us, not just for those who happen to share our priorities.
False information and propaganda create fear, anger and hatred. No one does their own thinking anymore. We buy half baked opinions and blame everyone else based on our own projections, omniscience and ignorance. We are overwhelmed. Anything we can imagine is too little, too late, hopeless, and something someone else should have done already.
Our leaders claim to be helpless. Problem solving is difficult, too dangerous and it's all the voters' fault anyway. I'm sick of hearing over and over how ugly our situation is and that any attempt at change will inevitably make things worse and it will all be my fault.
Thank you for a glimmer of hope.
You sound like a problem solver to us. We look forward to showing you how to use our collective intelligent app once it is finished being built.
LEADERLESS was going to be the name of our network state. Rules but no rulers. We changed some of the ideas now, but still are deciding what road to take from here. We made this video about it as a promo for the idea: https://youtu.be/pwNId_vuwPM
During the 1992 Presidential campaign, Ross Perot observed that: "a general lack of accountability among elected officials and those in the bureaucracy is the one specific reason that the people of America suffered…. and our only means of correction is to inspect their work and hold them accountable.”
Mr. Perot went on to note that this can easily be done with computer programs.
He called it: THE ELECTRONIC TOWNHALL.
“It is only logical that it will become our Fourth Branch of Government”, he said.
Objective reality:
the voting members of the US Congress and the State Legislatures do not have enough time to read, comprehend or debate any of the laws they vote on. They vote 100 times a day, every five minutes, while in session.
Approximate absolute facts:
Every day that the Congress and Legislatures are in session 100 new bills are introduced and distributed.
The representatives are given two weeks to review the bills before they are brought up for The Vote.
Two weeks into the session they begin voting on the Laws that were previously introduced, while newer laws are introduced.
Many of these bills are in excess of two thousand pages.
The arithmetic demonstrates that the elected representative does not have the time to even read the name of the Law much less the content of it.
Since the Representatives cannot evaluate 200 thousand pages of law speak per day, they vote the way their Party advisors tell them to vote.
This demonstrates that Representative government does not exist.
Thus, they have forfeited their delegated obligations to us, The Citizens.
And the only way to prevent these over worked and fallible people from making even more tragic mistakes, from which we, and the rest of the world, might never recover is to include ourselves in the final decision making process.
The Electronic Congress
How it works:
Before a new law, tax, or expenditure can be put on the books it must first be Ratified by the Citizens.
Existing laws can be Annulled by the same super majority required to Ratify them.
This program can be applied to every level of government and will ultimately solve every problem we have.
To prevent chaos, the basic law, our Constitution and Bill of Rights, would be exempt from review.
Mr. Perot speculated that the Founding Fathers would probably have done the same had the technology been available in their day.
Just imagine:
With a new understanding we will also be able to accommodate new proposals initiated by us, The Citizens, for program and infrastructure improvements.
We, The People, could actually direct the priorities and review the progress of the major agencies like the: CDC and NIH as well as the libraries, school boards and local police departments.
If our government truly is of the people, by the people and for the people then this is the only way forward.
How to implement it:
Start here:
Dear Mr. / Madam School Board Trustee
I write to you today in a sincere effort to help you accomplish your noble reasons for seeking this office.
That is I seek to help you facilitate the betterment of our schools for our children and young people.
To do this, I ask you to make the Board meeting agenda questions and the data points behind them available to me as well as all of the other taxpayers.
Upload the stack to a server where we can read, ratify and or annul the elements after log on.
In a perfect world each paragraph must have at least three possible answers: agree, disagree, no opinion at this time.
Direct democracy is a growing trend, and many companies offer these services:
hosting, voter receipts, and a running tally of totals for everyone to see.
In this way Madam Trustee you are assured that you will always have the strength of the community with you when making the decisions that really do effect the lives of our people.
Vty,
Helpful Taxpayer Citizen
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This is an awesome example of direct democracy.
I couldn't understand the meaning of direct democracy versus democracy.
This is like a helping hand to the authority directly from the citizen - a good start to creating trust again. Thanks.
Please edit and add to the concepts below and circulate them as far as you can.
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The first question is:
# 1. Should the direct election of US Senators be returned to the States Legislatures?
a. Yes
b. No
c. Not sure
# 2. Who gets to vote in the: general election?
a. citizens only - Yes No
b. natural born citizens only - Yes No
c. naturalized citizens (legal immigrants) - Yes No
d. legal immigrants not yet naturalized - Yes No
e. anyone with a drivers license – Yes - No
# 2.1 Ages of Voter
f. minimum18 years
g. minimum 21 years
h. minimum 25 years
i. minimum 30 years
# 2.2 Sex of Voter
a. Male – Yes - No
b. Female – Yes - No
c. Non – Binanry - Yes - No
d. Transgender - Yes - No
# 2.3 Competence of Voter
e. property owners net value over $50,000 - Yes - No
f. property owners net value over $250,000 - Yes - No
g. have paid a minimum of $5000 per year of tax combined jurisdictions (school district, county, city, state, federal) - Yes - No
h. those receiving welfare / food stamps – Yes - No
i. tax exempt persons – Yes - No
j. those with unpaid child support obligations - Yes - No
k. those receiving WIC – Yes - No
l. those receiving Section 8 – Yes - No
m. those working for government bureaucracies – Yes - No
# 2.4 Genetic presence of Voter
a. Male without children – Yes - No
b. Male with children plural vote – Yes - No
c. Female with children plural vote – Yes - No
d. Female without children – Yes - No
Can you make a survey monkey survey and share a link? That is a form of swarming if you know how to do it.
I would love to, and may eventually have to, but for now I am hoping that someone with more time and an inclination to make some money off of the polling will step up and do it.
Also, proper polling requires a computer savvy pilot.
Great ideas. I’m listening. Yes to “a bottom-up, decentralized, transparent and trustworthy system that is also 100% in control of the people using it.” Emphasis on “trustworthy,” a virtue within a moral code.
For curious but natural reasons, this isn’t a popular angle, but a long view of history indicates that absent mechanisms to sustain morality and virtue—to echo John Adams—every political system, every check, and every balance can be corrupted and turned to tyranny. Democracy, republic, socialism, communism, monarchy, oligarchy, network state, it makes little difference.
This sounds trite and hackneyed to some, but any system not rooted and sustained by “Love God and love your neighbor” inevitably falls to greedy miscreants, some of whom are always among us. So, who is God, what is His perspective, and who is my neighbor? Maybe we need to answer those questions and commit to the underlying system.
I'm listening too.
Using the two rules that Jesus counseled at the last supper is a good foundation to base an open, decentralized, trusted network. I vote for this too.
As for who is God and what is His perspective - breakdown the Lords Prayer. The answer and solution is in that prayer.
Who is your neighbour? I'm your neighbour.
It is heartening to see so many people responding in their own way to this thought provoking article.
That’s the Spirit, Auntidote. Your response is certainly heartening.
An interesting, thought-provoking article.
I like the concepts of decentralization and direct democracy, but I struggle with a basic concept. Yes, government is evil most of the time, Larken Rose in his book "The Most Dangerous Superstition" argue that government lacks legitimacy and should therefore be disobeyed.
However, with my brainwashed frame of mind I still things that surely need to be centralized, such as roads, an electricity grid, and the rest of infrastructure that serves the community/society as a whole. And there are other examples. How can these be tackled in a decentralized way?
Great question. We can have centralized top-down systems work for the decentralized people. We call it the "Last Hand On the Bat" theory of systems. We describe it in this article: https://joshketry.substack.com/p/embrace-decentralized-systems-fear?utm_source=publication-search
Great well written piece, have you thought about a seperate discussion group for the thongs discussed? Like a subreddit or discord? Would be a good starting point for implementing a more direct democracy.
We have a message board started on swarmacademy.ai but have held back a little the last few months as we are engineering a new app so the whole world can use collective intelligence together like a social media app for group problem solving.
As soon as the software is ready we plan on launching in person meetings where (hopefully) hundreds attend. People bring their problems to the group and we use the software to form collective intelligence swarms and we solve them as a group. Once this works we can implement this plan basically on any system anywhere it has support, or run for any office as one unit of people:
How To Uncorrupt Government In 3 Simple Steps:
https://joshketry.substack.com/p/how-to-fix-corrupt-government-in
Are zoom meetings going to be interactable with the in person meetings? How's the app progress?
We plan on doing local in person meetings using the app first. We want to bridge URL and IRL. There are several Network State Meet ups this year as well as we are going to host a "problem solving party" somewhere in the North East within a few months.
Zoom sounds good.
Zoom goes against the anonymity principle.
We like privacy as much as the next person. But some people want to build communities and turn them into a force (swarm) online. These high trust systems are forces. Imagine 30,000,000 people behind a cause, all posting at the same time or raising funds together. Rethink the possibilities if we also had a place online where we were all verifiably us. Not with some centralized and corrupt entity like government or scanning eyeballs like World Coin, but rather decentralized trust. Sort of like ratings on ebay or amazon. Starting with just one simple trust - do you know anyone I know? Can you vouch that they are a real person? https://joshketry.substack.com/p/fixing-trust-online-and-in-person?utm_source=publication-search
Define your high trust system please .
Yes, I can understand that, but then why use Bitcoin? 1 of the principles of it is to do away with the need to trust. I thought that the people swarms you talk about is also about anonymity to avoid having to trust.
The anonymity principle doesn't have to be used on everything. In fact, if we mix IRL and URL we can build trust way better, keep AI and bots outs of our systems, and build communities once again.
Good point. What would be a better way to interact face to face.
Hard to say. We do think you should and could build trust online if you are anonymous, but the reasons to be anonymous in a swarm are much less so since you are not labeled or named when you actually swarm. You are nameless and faceless and are just the idea or answer.
I don't (yet?) see the need for it, which is why I engage the Author on it 😀
Every human system we have come up with so far has been gamed by psychopaths and sadists to produce human misery, often as a side-effect of trying to do something else like enhance their own wealth or status, but sometimes out of a love for doing evil for its own sake. The problem with enabling technologies is that it enables _everybody_ and those who want to do evil or at least do not care if it happens have a much easier job of things.
Not every system. Alcoholics Anonymous. Napster. Bitcoin. Decentralized systems and transparent systems make them nearly impossible to game. You can only game an individual node, never the whole thing. Centralized systems, evil is much easier to succeed. We fix ths with better systems. As Naval Ravikant says, the sign of a good system is hand it over to your enemies to corrupt it. If they cannot, then it is a good system.
I'm really interested in how you plan to hand it over to your enemies -- and get it back when they are done. I implemented a decentrallised reputation system a few decades ago. I thought it would lead to the transparency and expose malefactors. Instead the malefactors paid people to say nice things about them. But I never thought about Alcoholics Anonymous. What a good thought. Must think some more about that, and read up on the governance structure of AA.
Check out the book the starfish and the spider. It is was spawned us to decentralize our businesses and listen to the crowd - really listen to them - do wild things like put Ferris wheels on top of 100 year old concrete grain silos, and it succeed.
Thank you!
Do you think AA's success is a function of its governance or its underlying moral code, and which springs from which?
Pie in the sky. I want no system which abandons cash. We already have a Constitution, it’s just been corrupted beyond imagination. We fail because most people are uninformed and unaware sheep. Corruption runs rampant because the majority ignore it.
“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.” ― Thomas Paine
Nothing will change unless people choose to educate themselves with real information. Education is key, unfortunately indoctrination has replaced this with leftist Marxist indoctrination. How you undo 60 plus years of this is almost impossible to conceive.
If a system has been corrupted then it is no longer a good system. That doesn't mean throw it out, it means fix it. And who said anything about getting rid of cash? At the government level they do almost ZERO cash transactions. Wouldn't that be better it all have on a decentralized and transparent ledger?
America seemed pie-in-the-sky once too.
Corruption runs rampant because the ways to corrupt our system have outpaced the ways to protect it. You can shove your head in the sand and scream "get off my lawn!" Or, you can realize that we need to use technology back onto the people who are tying to use it to control us.
I think there's another layer to add to your observation that corruption runs rampant because the ways to corrupt our system have outpaced the ways to protect it. I would argue that education has been specifically designed so that students are more vulnerable to corrupt messaging. So, while the understanding of human psychology by MBA programs increases, so does the vulnerability of the population through a substandard quality of education. One way to address this education quality issue as well as provide a perfect complement to your project, is my new book, which is the basis of my upcoming training program: https://www.amazon.com/Truth-what-good-Enlightenment-Performance/dp/0970507054
I get that this article is long and there are many ideas stuffed into it. I respectfully disagree - that this is Pie in the Sky. More like putting a bunch of suggestions on the table for all to see. Some of these ideas will resonate. Some won't. And thats OK. Explore the ideas that don't and use this platform to challenge, question and research for yourself. I see this article as a place for sharing, shaping and learning.
We are okay with the challenging. In fact we want people to disagree with us to swarm with us and solve problems together. Once you see the truth - that there is wisdom in crowds that can be safely extracted, and it is powerful wisdom - then you cannot deny it.
Swarming also has a side effect. Collectivism. Ayn Rands - Atlas Shrugged. When to use collectivism. When to use individulism. Truth is based on personal preference, who's platform and if the message is designed to persuade, influence, enforce. The mechanism for double speak is now in full force, with the help of AGI.
The Bitcoin community I follow - all have similar values - open source, decentralised, data security.
Data is now the biggest commodity market.
This is why when we swarm all members turn anonymous.
Individualism is paramount to running good swarms. We are anti-collectivism in the common definition, but again this is one of those words that requires defining before discussing. Otherwise it is just another label..
We cannot deny that we have collective problems, and using collective intelligence to solve collective problem is the best way.
If you are using collectivism as a way say that the group is more important than the individual, this absolutely is not the outcome that we see. But we are for constitutions or codes that protect the individual first.
Collective intelligence is not something most people have seen work or studied. But individualism is the mantra for a good collective intelligence system. True diversity of opinions get the best results
Your ideas all sound wonderful. Unfortunately you want to apply them to people. Humans as a whole are largely willfully ignorant and self absorbed. The United States with its Constitution and the ability of its citizens to vote is a perfect example of why the world is the way it is. People would rather not think or take responsibility for the greater community. They prefer to be told what to do. Voting is the mechanism to remove representatives that are not doing what the people want. However even with an approval rating of around 10% most congress persons and senators get reelected. Also there is a tendency for the worst types of individuals wanting positions of power and influence taking control of systems, think HOAs and government jobs, communist and socialist countries. I will continue to follow and support you but with all of our technological advances humanity still uses them as clubs to kill each other with.
You're right. Ignorant, self absorbed, compliant. That was me.
During 2020 lockdown - I've turned into this beast, devouring information both fake and real, facing my fears head on, and most of all unraveling the corruption from UN/WEF, to following the broken money, broken people and broken minds.
Do I know it all. No I don't.
But I boot strapped myself, when I saw western governments lockstepped into vax jabs and lockdowns.
My biggest learning curve - how English language is weaponised. How money works. How to prepare for the unpredictable.
Whilst there's 80% (my guess) still in 'dont want to know' mode, there is a growing number of 'I want to know'.
So hope exists slowly one step at a time.
We think the number is closer to 40% are learning now. For us the language and money are big, but the most obvious corruption is our food supply. Stop eating their foods. We wrote about it a lot but you can see dozens of people we interviewed including Josh, one of our original writers, cured autoimmune diseases, clinical mental health and more.
I think 40% in learning mode is optimistic, but I can live with that.
When I first started the learning journey I got so excited I wanted to share with those around me. I got the glazed look, the I'm too busy excuse or the you're a nut case.
I learned two things from that lesson - they are not ready, because their reality differs from mine and the more I learned - the more I realized I didn't know. So its been a lone journey and I've loved every moment of it.
You're right - they're hitting us with frankenfood from every direction. We can thank Bill Gates, Monsanto and Bayer. FBI stomping on the Amish - highlights the practice of organic farming in tune with the environment.
Before Dr Vladimir Zelenko died - 2 bits of advice - look after your immune system, say no to the vax jab.
Dr Mattias Desmet helped me to understand how fear was used to hypnotise a mob into immediate compliance, using government and propaganda as the weapons.
I followed the money, to find the culprits, to study the rules and the mechanisms used to steal, to cheat, to manipulate the markets, the banks, the politicians - for governance, for power, for control.
Then I found Bitcoin and self custody.
Still trying to grasp Balaji Srinivasan's concept of network states.
And your concept of swarming.
Both have benefits.
Auntidote we absolutely love your origin story! Like so many of us, there is hope.
And here is some more hope - MOST people want to do good. This is testable and has been studied. Well over 95% of people will be fair and honest if given a choice. There becomes a problem called Moloch that we have written about before where systems in society get corrupted, it becomes a race to the bottom. The worst people run the system. Then normally honest people are more likely to act poorly because they think they have to in order to survive in the shitty system, We must show there is another way. By building new trustworthy system to operate on for humanity. One where we solve problems in high trust groups.
Ideal but …. The 7 deadly sins will always be with us . The 10 commandments , many a people couldn’t even tell you what they are. The nature of man goes back to Genesis.
We cannot end bad people. Rather, we must always assume they exist. So the secret to not getting your house robbed isn't to cure the world of robbers, but rather to have a security system so layered, that it is not worth it to even try to rob you.
Lots of layers !! 100%
> The nature of man goes back to Genesis.
For you as a believer in the bible it does, for me as a geologist the bible is a fairy tale, the Earth was formed 4.5 billion years ago, and we, like the world around us, were created by Mother Nature.
Having said that, if I understand the idea of the Society of problem solvers is that, among other things, it is all inclusive, anonymous, free, non-coercive. In other words, whatever you or I believe, it is our business and worth just as much as the beliefs of the other group members.
Who are you taking to here? We have never stated our beliefs on here because there are several writers.
I am talking to "Brandon is not your bro", I even quoted one of his sentences.
I agree you have never stated your beliefs, which is why I explicitly stated "if I understand the idea of the Society of problem solvers" — I hope that is OK.
Let's start with the fact that all government is corrupt. If you want true freedom as an individual, government's master-slave relationship is not the answer. If you give a person more power over the government than they have over them, then they do not need any government. All the various forms of government like democracy, republic or dictatorship still have one thing in common...government and the master-slave relationship.
How do you get to what you are describing from here? What we are describing still has rules, just no ruler. There can be no master-slave relationship in a leaderless system.
We are pissing in the wind if we do not recognise that:
a) The medical profession is a corrupt mafia. The Rockefellers, Goldman Sachs and now Gates (who is intending to do with it what he did to IBM) recognise it for what it is and have colluded and harnessed it for over a century.
b) We have to recognise the fake medical heroes like Malone, Kory etc. who have been giving us a limited hangout about covid for the past 4 years for what they are: phoney manipulators.
c). They can get away with it because they censor people like me. If youtube had not taken down my video on vitamin c (together with a million others !) the scamdemic would have been over in 5 minutes.
Here is my email to Kathy Gingell of The Conservative Woman, a site which has been pushing the limited hangout narrative for the past 4 years. (Now supporting the genocide in Gaza).
Hi,
"Bird Flu" is being tee'd up for a rerun of the scam to make sure all the normies are killed off.
Today, yet again I tried to post life saving information on TCW that if known about by enough people would prevent a new plandemic.
Yet again I was thwarted. You could have published this information when I offered it to you at the beginning of the scamdemic and saved a lot of people's lives but instead you treat me like a crank.
I've finally realised that TCW is controlled opposition. Fake heroes like Malone,, Kory and your hero Trump.
We are being distracted from what is the real problem which is that the medical profession is inherently corrupt and always has been.
They will shun, hide and propagandise against simple, natural, safe, effective remedies which are legion.
Here I catch them lying about sun and tanning bed exposure and vitamin d supplementation: https://www.seignalet-plus.com/recipes/the-medical-profession-is-lying-to-us/
Non Steroidal Anti Inflammatories, Corticosteroids,
https://www.seignalet-plus.com/corticosteroids-the-wrong-switch-vitamin-d-the-right-switch-part-1/
Immune suppressants, Anti-Biotics. All ineffective stand ins for vitamin c and vitamin d. All JUNK. All part of the f... you up cascade.
Here is Cheneys 1952 paper about how he healed stomach ulcer in 10 days or less with cabbage juice: https://www.seignalet-plus.com/cabbage-leaf-for-pain-relief/
In the 1850's French doctor Anselm Blanc put everything into remission with cabbage leaf wraps including 3 cases of gangrene. All cured in a few days.
See how I put months long painful, semi paralysis of the arm from the jab into remission with cabbage leaf wrap. 60% remission overnight. 100% remission after 2 more applications:
https://rumble.com/vxu76p-cabbage-leaf-spike-protein-jab-detox.html
Here is my translation of Dr. Blanc's book: https://www.seignalet-plus.com/cabbage-leaf-for-pain-relief/
In the 1950's Dr. Klenner healed polio (even severe cases) in a few days with vitamin c. Thanks to Klenner we know that that high dose vitamin c reverses any viral disease. It can bring you back from the dead.
High dose vitamin c intravenous brings you back from the dead.
https://rumble.com/v18vvow-high-dose-vitamin-c-can-bring-you-back-from-the-dead.html
Here is the CEO of youtube boasting about how she took down a million (!) videos about vitamin c.
https://rumble.com/v18vxp4-susan-wojcicki-complicit-or-dupe.html
Thanks to the invention of lipospheric vitamin c we don't need to rely on the crooked medical mafia to save us from dying from Pneumonia and Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome.
See how to take high dose vitamin c safely here.
https://www.seignalet-plus.com/vitamin-c-the-lazarus-vitamin/
Why has Ivermectin been oversold
https://survivethejab.com/why-has-ivermectin-been-oversold/
Contrary to TCW, Rumble loves me! They keep emailing me to ask me to post more stuff. I have about 50 recipe videos I have not had time to post yet. (Too busy wasting my time trying to save people by posting on TCW.) I think I'll make a video about limited hangouts, controlled opposition and phoneys.
Today I was boiling with anger. It's now ice cold.
I'll start by posting this email on my website with the heading "Fuck off the conservative woman". See here for a sample.
https://www.seignalet-plus.com/fuck-off-justine-roberts-ceo-and-founder-of-mumsnet-cbe/
Cheers Chris Parkinson
So far you got no likes for this comment, so I'll be the 1st one to give you my like because your comment hits the nail on the head.
I have had flak from others for calling Malone, Kory and McCullough frauds, so your comment is welcome and well put 👍
Thanks. Yes. Unless they said at the beginning of the scam: "Take 5,000 i.u.s of vitamin d, 500mg of vitamin c, zinc, quercetin", they are phoneys. " Instead they sold us ivermectin which of course they were not allowed to prescribe. All their hand wringing about this is complete BS. Only Dr. Shiva is the real deal.
I saw quite a compelling video by Dr. Sam Bailey explaining that Ivermectin is crap too. I know some people swear it has saved them, but is that anecdotal? Even Malone has said it cured his Covid within 3 days — how much is his comments worth?
Dr, Shiva the real deal: are you sure? I heard he is the kind of guy who does not accept to be questioned/challenged. I have no experience with him, but apparently, like Malone, lawfare is also 1 of his favored methods to shut you up.
The studies on early use of Ivermectin are compelling.
Really? Just for the record, here is Merck's own statement on the safety and efficacy of Ivermectin: https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/
And here is Dr. Sam Bailey's video which I strongly recommend you watch, if, of course, you are prepared to keep an open mind and are interested in looking at all the angles: https://drsambailey.substack.com/p/the-ivermectin-games
Over and above all that, what is Covid-19 anyway? The symptoms they have described are numerous, and so general that they could be applied to many a disease. Furthermore, the so-called SARS-CoV-2 virus does not even exist, that is to say, it has not been shown to exist directly. Instead, it has been alleged to exist by using indirect methods based on bits of something from which they constructed an entire "virus genome" to prove that the virus exists — talk about circular arguments.
Last but not least, when Covid appeared on the scene, miraculously seasonal flu disappeared from the scene. And any critical questions and discussions about Covid were suppressed, while the statistics were manipulated in a desperate attempt to prove the existence of the virus and its effects on the population.
SO, WHAT ARE THEY ACTUALLY TREATING WITH IVERMECTIN IN HUMANS??
Right at the beginning of the covid scam, Shiva called it out. He said that everyone should take 5,000 i.u's of vitamin d, zinc, quercetin, vitamin c and some drops of iodine. I said pretty much the same thing but no-one's heard of me. Shiva got a bit more traction but he was taken off Twitter.
It's true that Shiva doesn't have much time for people who disagree with him but "lawfare to shut you up"? No!
It is a pleasure to read such imaginative and well-intentioned concepts, all seeking to eliminate the corruption of modern political systems. These seem to me to be based in the system of professional politicians who generally can be relied on to be power-seekers, and thus highly susceptible to progressive corruption, unafraid of detection once they are powerful enough or protected by the right ‘friends’. If we could eliminate the political class, and return to responsibility being in the hands, temporarily, of ordinary decent, experienced and honest citizens we might go a long way to re-establishing the decent society that we all long for.
How about using a system somewhat similar to the military draft? But have strong filters established to weed out the potential psychopaths, the morally unfit, the mentally incapable, and the youthfully inexperienced. Those selected, by ballot, would serve two terms of three years, first as a junior minister, learning from a senior, then a final three years as a senior minister, before retiring back to civilian life.
Of course we would need a safeguard of an upper house, say of six ballottees, using the same term structure. This group would have sole say over acceptance or rejection of legislation from the ministers. ( And that would be their sole role.). The ministers might be allowed three attempts to get it through. Failing that a referendum would be needed. There is much more detail that could be added to this concept, which for convenience’s sake I call the Athenian Option. The roles of all ballotted members would be to serve the nation, not themselves.
While the direct democracy that you describe may very well work when solving complex problems, it does not work well when wielding the powers of the state. In the end, what makes nation states or sovereign power different from corporate, NGO, non-profit, or any other organization is that the sovereign has the ability to take your freedom, up to and including your life as well as your money. Those other organizations have power, but it is limited to influence, cohesion, and most importantly, money. Sovereign problems should be limited to those problems were sovereign power is part of the primary solution. When the state steps outside that problem box, you get ineffable characters wielding sovereign power with ineffective results. This is why the government seldom does anything well or even acceptable. It is best to minimize the government's involvement in solving large societal problems directly, but rather the government should be used to set the conditions necessary for the constituents to thrive. There is a fine line where the government has a legitimate role in solving societal problems, in many cases now, the government creates the problems only to propagate and expand their sphere of control. That fine line has been blurred to a point of indistinction. Today, we live in an inverted totalitarian system where the government wields power through institutions to control the people rather than set the conditions for the sovereign people to thrive. The government needs to be separate and distinct body from the body of problem solvers.
The government that would wield that power would be directly the people. Ineffable characters will no longer be in control. That is the whole point.
Limiting government is a great idea too. But here is the thing, most swarms agree with that, until they get control of some of the money for creativity to improve their society (or business, or team, or union, or whatever system, as a swarm).
You are making statements that you cannot possibly know if they are true or not because you have not run a system or seen a system run with a collective intelligence system. You are making conjectures - that may be true, but based on what we have seen are not . It’s not the money that is the problem. It is the trust. The lack of transparency. The centralized corrupted system. And the direction flow of the epistemology- from the top down with two binary polarizing answers is not the way to solve societies problems. When you change that flow to the bottom up using creative problem solving and starting with the problem, it becomes very very hard to corrupt. In fact we can run some swarms and you can form a red team and try to corrupt us. The pushback you are giving is warranted, for a poorly designed system. We just think it is solvable, and not really that hard to solve.
Maybe visualizing will help:
https://youtu.be/AIF1Rh_JNeE?si=oqJwHN50eOBti7Dk
This sounds a lot like Sociocracy? https://www.sociocracyforall.org/sociocracy/
1. What is direct democracy vs democracy . (51% vote counts applies to both). Am I missing something here.
2. How do you know if/when bots, AI become part of the count
3. Building a decentralized network such as a derivate of the Hawala system would be a worthwhile concept to explore. Perhaps Balaji Srinivasan could give us a deeper insight into this ancient practice. Lyn Alden's book 'Broken Money', touched on this form of money transaction using a ledger system, based on Trust.
Our form of direct democracy is not voting. Voting requires labels and labels lead to groupthink. You start with the problem and try to solve it as a group. Then you use confidence scores to move forward. You could do yes and no questions if you need to vote, but those should be kept to the final round and only after all members of the swarm were allowed creative answers
The first question is:
# 1. Should the direct election of US Senators be returned to the States?
a. Yes
b. No
c. Not sure
# 2. Who gets to vote in the: general election?
a. everyone over 18 years
b. everyone over 21 years
c. voters must be citizens – Yes - No
d. anyone in the world can vote in USA elections – Yes - No
e. property owners over 21 years
f. property owners over 21 years paying a minimum of $5000 per year of tax combined jurisdictions (school district, county, city, state, federal)
g. those receiving welfare / food stamps – Yes - No
h. tax exempt persons – Yes - No
i. recently arrived immigrants – legal - illegal – Yes - No
# 3. Who gets to vote in the: ratification or annulment of the laws process?
a. everyone over 18 years
b. everyone over 21 years
c. voters must be citizens – Yes - No
d. anyone in the world can vote – Yes - No
e. property owners over 21 years
f. property owners over 21 years paying a minimum of $5000 per year tax per jurisdiction (school district, county, city, state, federal)
g. those receiving welfare / food stamps – Yes - No
h. tax exempt persons
i. recently arrived immigrants – legal - illegal – Yes - No