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I would add another factor. Humanity includes a large number of people who are somewhere on the sociopathic spectrum (with psychopathy at one extreme). What this means is there will always be people trying to game the system for their own benefit. If we can only come up with a way to prevent this, I think it would be major.

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We prevent it by making the system better. We can never count on people. As Naval Ravikant says, a GOOD system should be able to be run by your enemies and still run well.

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This here displays Your mistake, M. Ketry. Your system would be perfectable, except that people are *necessarily* gonna be involved with it, right? And any system with people involved with it is *necessarily* gonna be less than perfect. Not even close, in actual fact.

That's sets aside this problem in Your thinking: People shouldn't be considered a bug. Something You can fix. (Let alone fix with tech, which is impossible.) They should be considered at the CENTER of any kind-a system You wanna design. Keeping in mind the actual FACT that people are never gonna be even *close* to perfect, unless they are totally CONTROLLED.

Mebbe You wanna live in a world where You are TOTALLY controlled. I doubt it. But read, or reread, Orwell's 1984 to see the problems with that kind-a society. That's the only way to develop the "perfect system."

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In Orwell's story the system controls the people. In my story we use a system to prevent corruption back on the people elected to run the system. They are literally opposites.

Like Naval Ravikant says - "A good system should b able to be turned over to your enemies to try and break it, and they still can't."

Of course all systems are build for humans to use or benefit from. Your fear of technology is going to end up with people like the WEF using it to control us. What we should be using it for is to defend ourselves against people like them. It is the difference between centralization and decentralization. Check out the book The Starfish and The Spider because once you understand these concepts then we can evolve to have a more balanced discussion about this. Decentralization is the key to preventing 1984 without being so terrified of technology that we shove our heads in the proverbial sand.

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As I was reading this, I was imagining the average apathy of the voters - who basically want to turn the hard questions over to someone else and let them handle it. It seems that this system puts almost too much faith in the average man, and his ability to be interested and engaged on a full time basis. While earning a crust and raising the kids....

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You make a good point.

However, the importance of the average voter is that they're the ones that keep the world moving. And, more and more, they recognize that they're being CONTROLLED, by people like M. Ketry.

1984 --> 2023.

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Yes, that's a requirement of a good system.

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Thanks for reading and for your input!

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Also love your name, those hardy little alien bastards. So cool!

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Sociopathy is the extreme. Psychopathy is somewhat less evil.

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I spent some time looking this up. Definitions vary.

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I looked it up, too. I had it backwards. Mea culpa.

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I'd ask for that hour back, but it was not unproductively spent. :)

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Au contraire, mon frere. Psychopathy is highly intelligent sociopathy.

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Really? I've had them backwards all this time? OK. Same principle though.

Thanks.

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I am a bit overwhelmed by this, but it is interesting. El gato malo has been talking about how we need to insist in data transparency for government agencies (especially FDA and CDC), after all we pay them to gather data and produce studies from that data. That is where I would start with transparency and we certainly have the technology to do this. And by transparency for government data we don't mean waiting on FOIA requests...we mean data is uploaded continually on user friendly websites for ALL to use and analyze.

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We are going to try and connect better with El Gato Malo. We need to form alliances. Especially in sub culture journalism if we plan on creating a movement. Thank you for reading and for your input, Erika. Hope you subscribed!

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Connect with Russell Brand too, I hope!

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Got his number? ;)

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Yes! We pay them to gather , then give it to us, not to gather then hide from us.

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I absolutely love this concept, but frankly, I think it's a movement that needs to grow under the radar and not make a big push until the time is right. A critical mass is still hypnotized, and profound yet relatively simple concepts like a Transparency Movement will be vilified by the mass media before it even gets off the ground. A few years ago, I would have been advocating for this hard, but after observing behavior over the last few years ... it's hard to accept that people will stick their heads in the sand, even in the face of the obvious, but that's where a good chunk of the population is still at. Access to modern day conveniences and distractions still often override many people's critical thinking skills and survival instincts. It's so bizarre.

That said, this discourse is exactly what we all need right now <3 subscribed and looking into MINDS now :)

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Thanks for reading and for your comment.

How could this be attacked? The mainstream media has lost all of its teeth. If the decentralized media got behind it that would be enough.

What good reason is there to have the systems that govern over our lives not be corrupted? They would have to gaslight to a level never seen before to convince anyone of that. And honestly even if one side of the political aisle did it, it should be enough. But I do get your point. They attacked occupy movement etc.

However for true decentralization we need a lot of people on board. That vulnerability might be a risk but I don’t see another way to get there

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Yeah I can't fathom a scenario where they can actually gaslight this one effectively, but, the lost concept of a person's immune system really startled me. How did that happen?! To me, anything can be targeted and consequentially weaponized, so we must tread carefully.

I am legitimately torn dwelling on this, because my biggest fear is that it is already too late ... if the rapidly emerging science is holds true, we are about to have cascading health problems, along with looming food and energy shortages, etc ... the masses are about to get really pissed off, and emotionally charged situations will certainly not be dealt with rationally. Perhaps the time is indeed right now, before that powder keg erupts ...

Regardless of the timing, I think this needs to bypass all current political aisles. It should bypass all politics. That's where the gaslighting and deflections are a potent tool. Neutrality is key.

Didn't mean to suggest that this isn't a worthwhile avenue to pursue, just cautiously pessimistic perhaps ;) thank you for generating this discourse <3

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I completely understand what you are saying. That's why I have such a sense of urgency to bring people together now, and to try and find avenues where we can build the technology needed to make our world run by the people once again.

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unbelievable that insider trading by gov officials is not already illegal,

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back on.. and checking out the replies. I am for sure a techie for years.. I love your name. Kitten seeking answers. :) how fun is that? I do like the proposal of "TRANSPARENCY'' and it can be done. massive heavy lifting and you know what happened to I am not going to say it,, it will trigger an avalanche.. OH THAT IS saying too much. the last time I said it thing when my son and I were on the Crypto website.. I was black screened and my son had to come here at my office and we reinstalled everything from scratch for the second time last year. Substack feels intimate like the old boards.. you know what I mean.. but I have been on for a month or more and already can navigate around with ease.. so that means anyone with average skillz..yo I got skillz.. ok I am tired now. I get silly when I am tired. and I am that. GOOD NIGHT. for now. :) .

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You got skills enough to find ways to build the tech we need?

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No.. I cannot do that anymore.. my eyesight is "gone" from years online; double torn retinas. I used to: my son is a developer and engineer.. and working full blast. He came to my house and office. I wish I could still all that. I could send it to him.. this is right now his alley. He has a ninja website server at his house. Never hurts to ask. :) thanks for asking me. !

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Minor change within the proposed system. All bills should be single item, not the conglomerations we get now, with all the pork added in. This should also include the bills be short enough for someone that works for a living, to have time to read. There should also be a legalese translation for non-lawers and non-politians.

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Thanks for reading and for the reply Bandit! I like where your head is at. But making it truly "single item" might be difficult, no?. Some problems require multi steps to correct. I guess the issue I see is what constitutes a "single item"?

As for your second part - if the government was forced to post the bills online for all of us to read - millions of people could help translate it with graphs, etc. So that's a great idea.

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It would make more bills to be voted on. Take the "infrastructure" bill. The different items in the bill could be grouped with like items, ex. repair bridges and roads. There would be no pork allowed for the preferred states, in this case blue states. If there were other items needing "fixed," such as airports, it would need a different bill, still no pork.

Depending on others to translate the legalese? Do we know we can trust them? Maybe the graphs and tables can be included in the bills. That way the legislators could understand them, too. (Sometimes I wonder if they do understand.) These being included in the bills would also let future generations know what the thought processes behind the bills were.

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Or maybe the people in the decentralized platforms get to vote to break the bills up? That might be the best check and balance of all.

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That is an excellent plan, if only it could be implemented. I think a more direct approach, in that holding the corrupt politicians accountable. Fire them all, no more getting along and bing nice, that's over. Elections are in themselves corrupt, the corrupt people can be rutted out and should be! We need a legitimate person in the White House, that would be a start!

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Hey Dr. Gregory. We thought the same thing at first - implementation. But did you know it already has been implemented in a less potent version in Taiwan, and they have been able to keep the CCP at bay from infiltrating their government using radical transparency? You probably never heard of the Sunflower Revolution that happened there 4 or 5 years ago, but that is because the story is purposely suppressed. We wrote about it (see below). We don't think their idea is perfect, but it certainly is a huge step in the right direction for governmental accountability and to prevent corruption.

The secret in Taiwan was they did it small - proved the tech worked in two mayoral races. Beta tested it as it controlled government. It worked then caught on. Within a year any politician not using the tech of the people there would not get voted in office.

And if elections are corrupt then we can use our new technology to hold the elections accountable too. If there is an online blockchain platform where every vote can be traced, and the system cannot be hacked and is transparent, and the people have the power to constantly change and upgrade the system, well - we compare the polling numbers in that system to the votes. They should be nearly identical. If they aren't that means we are missing a marginalized community with our tech, and need to do a better job of getting them access.

Thanks for your feedback and for reading this. If you want to be solutions minded for the problems we face, we are exciting to have people like you thinking with us along for the journey.

We wrote about Taiwan's sunflower revolution here, and really get into it about halfway through the short article.

https://joshketry.substack.com/p/the-case-for-building-a-new-open

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Thank you for your kind reply. There is a lot coming out, and your information is part of the information most of us has no knowledge of. Certainly I'm open to new ideas that work, but I'm afraid that nothing will change much until we have a Trump in the WH. Thanks again, it's a plan I would accept and work towards when possible.

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It shouldn't matter who is in the white house if the system was good enough. As Naval Ravikant says, "A good system should be able to be turned over to your enemies to purposely corrupt it, and should still hold up."

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Okay I agree but getting it implemented through the swamp maybe a chore. To say the least.

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We need to start small. First build the tech. Then get a few mayors and county executives elected. Then let it spread.

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Yes, agreed!

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I'm sure I skipped a few parts of the page, was primarily looking for present and future, not history. Although it was interesting too.

" listen to like 15 hours worth of podcasts"

My memory and comprehension work best when I look at graphs, illustrations -- high quality visuals. I found that to be true for most people.

And I have so many decisions to make, so much to do. Just have a little down time because I hurt my foot and the weather sucks.

I'm anxiously awaiting your plan how to fix everything!

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We think we found a good way to explain it with a relatively short video. We plan on doing a bunch of other medium too, including possibly a short book and an article here.

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I support the movement to revoke the corporations' natural person rights 1000%.

https://www.movetoamend.org/amendment

Legislation has been introduced NUMEROUS times, but not only do the legislators LOVE corruption and the corporate bribes and continue to refuse to overturn Citizens United through legislation, but the Qanon's and antivaxxers I discussed it with also support the corporations.

So incredibly weird.

Anyway, I'm truly puzzled that you're all excited about something that hasn't even made it on a webpage.

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Do you do books or audio books at all? Because this podcast while long is like an audiobook filled with amazing ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeH7qKZr0WI&t=2073s

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I know that people have a lot of ideas. So do I and I'd rather actually "continue" to implement my own ideas.

As part of my planning, I need to know what others are going to do too. No point to forming a community when we'll then have a coup and I have to move because I'm not aligned with the Qanons, Militia or whoever.

I have options and if I sell instead and move to a more civilized continent, there's no undo button. I really don't want to move, but I also don't want to end up in some camp or shot.

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Which continent? The authoritarianism and corporate control is worldwide.

Max Igan & a few like minds ended up in Mexico, he seems to like it there. But when I look at the world - there are only a few pockets that the globalists are uninterested in.

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So true.

I'm very lucky, am hosting a couple volunteers during the heatwave, and we're enjoying ourselves, it's always great to meet new people and kick ass while having fun.

Many philosophical discussions. And a lot of food for thought here:

https://youtu.be/1f2blKai7HA

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I arrived with my Arab friends at the Turkish border on 9/12/80, the day of the military coup.

It didn't impact us at all, lots of military at the border, I was 22, you go with the flow. Nothing changed for us as foreign travelers. Still needed your bagsheesh for the cops and military, was a long drive through Turkey and I loved almost every minute.

Reading about it sure brought back memories:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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"The #1 issue we face today is the corruption of the systems that govern our lives."

Totally agreed. We need to have a ZERO tolerance for corrupt liars.

The end does NOT justify the means.

And we also need to accept that corruption is part of being human and that's why we need transparency and fact checkers.

So I don't understand why there is not a single movement exposing corruption and sincerely seeking fact-based solutions to our problems, one by one.

Am I missing something?

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Thanks for reading ! "fact checkers" has become a hot potato word. We certainly don't need them on social media platforms. But if you mean for the actual politicians, we should have a platform that does exactly that. And more. We need to hold the elite ruling class people accountable, which never happens anymore. We believe a Direct Democracy system can be used to do just this. IF we can solve the "tyranny of the masses" problem.

We can. Stay tuned...

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"We believe a Direct Democracy system can be used to do just this"

I had to read up:

https://www.britannica.com/topic/direct-democracy/Issues-and-controversies

A number of states legalized cannabis and we had the abortion measure last year through ballot measures.

But an excellent example of the power of the corporation was the defeat of the California Prop 37 in 2012 to require GMO labeling. The industry spewed so many lies, spent so much money, too many voters believed their lies.

And that is so scary.

IQs are dramatically declining and corporations run the world. EVERYTHING is about money and power.

At least half the US population suffers from cognitive decline (Alzheimer's starts decades before obvious symptoms) and the voters cannot determine what's fiction and what's true.

How does Direct Democracy fix these issues?

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We need to get the people who are highly aligned together. You are right, Direct Democracy doesn't fix anything. Rather, it is a powerful weapon. We can use it on each other or use it on a common enemy. The tyranny of the masses problem is when we use it on each other. But we can wield this same power and aim it back on the globalists and anyone corrupting our systems and start to fix all of the problems you mentioned.

The dangers are obvious, but newsflash - we are already in a system causing us danger.

Direct Democracy can do two things:

1) It can convert almost any democracy into a direct democracy with ease. All you need is a trustworthy candidate willing to turn over the reins to his or her constituents. Not a politician, just anyone. Nominate someone from your city.

2) Wielding the power is one force that is actually formidable enough to take on the globalists.

We have zero doubts if done right it would work. Our only doubts are if we can stop the tyranny of majority problem.

This is not an easy explanation, but our next article will have lot of better details. The Britannica explanation is parochial and outdated. Our plan would keep all the good parts of the American system. It would just protect that system from corruption and allow for more responsive and accountable representation.

Stay Tuned!

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Why do you want to empower the LITERALLY stupid population?

I don't see any tyranny at all. And I don't see how the "system" causes damages. There's room for improvement of course, prosecution of corruption, etc. but tyranny?

"The tyranny of the masses problem is when we use it on each other. "

"Our only doubts are if we can stop the tyranny of majority problem."

I don't understand this at all. The only "tyranny" I see is the corporations owning or controlling almost everything.

You didn't explain the failure of Prop. 37.

Why do you expect different results when people have to vote on COUNTLESS issues?

" All you need is a trustworthy candidate willing to turn over the reins to his or her constituents. Not a politician, just anyone. Nominate someone from your city."

Name one?

Looking forward to reading more about your plan addressing my questions! :)

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It's not the stupid population. We want to create a network state of highly aligned people that agree agree to a mew code and then work together. Are you familiar with Balaji Srinivasan's book the Network State?

If you don't see how the system causes damage then maybe we are not highly aligned. Or maybe it is because someone hasn't shown you just how corrupt it is. If it is corrupted, that means it is by criminals. And those criminals are now running everything.

Look at literally any metric and we are all sliding backwards. That is the fault of the systems that govern over our lives being corrupted.

The failure of prop 37 is explained easily by corruption or propaganda. Our new system would not be anything comparable to what happened there because we would be much much more shielded from the $50 million in propaganda that big agriculture spent on prop 37

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"Are you familiar with Balaji Srinivasan's book the Network State?"

Nope. I just don't have it in me, am way too busy to read books. Many years ago I was super excited to get Peter Joseph's book (Zeitgeist). If I see the word "socioeconomic" one more time I'll puke!

The Zeitgeist movies were great, but then came reality. For a few years I followed various forums and events, but it just was not happening.

There are fantasies and then there is reality.

" Our new system would not be anything comparable to what happened there because we would be much much more shielded from the $50 million in propaganda that big agriculture spent on prop 37"

How would that be accomplished?

"That is the fault of the systems that govern over our lives being corrupted."

While there are issues with our "system", such as giving corporations the rights of natural persons, I am absolutely certain that humans are corrupt by nature. I don't know anyone who wouldn't do a friend a favor.

Reality.

Do you know ANYONE who is not corrupt?

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The Transparency Movement begins!!

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Transparency only sanitizes when the public cares enough about systemic integrity to rise up. Without a revolutionary spirit fully corrupt systems can be exposed with no result.

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So put your spirit to good use then notBOb ;) This is the way.

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Apparently you and I are in a rare minority in America that actually cares about principles like liberty and accountability. The vast majority of our fellow citizens can't see past the propaganda on their phone long enough to even understand the concepts. The nation will fall not because of evil politicians but because of apathetic pop culture obsessed citizens.

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This is why we need to use their phones to help them reengage with the right things.

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I absolutely love this more than you can imagine. We the people have to step up and re-engineer the political system. How and where do I sign up?

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Sign up for the free Substack? Or sign up to be part of the movement? Because I think the next big step in creating a transparency movement is finding an open sourced way to build the tech. Know any ways to do that?

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You put a lot of thought into this and the idea is great, but realistically, the government is an alcoholic and for an intervention to happen, the US government/economy will have to hit rock bottom before people wake up, pay attention, and have a real desire to intervene. The time to that rock bottom may have accelerated a little faster with the passage of the "anti-inflation" bill over the weekend.

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I hope it doesn't get that far

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Thank you for sharing this. Very inspiring. I am in the UK, but feel this can be applied world wide. I will go through this and be looking for ways that I can bring things about.

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Thanks so much for reading and spreading the word!

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Bitcoin fixes this. If there is nothing for government to steal, psychopaths will find something better to do than become politicians.

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Fix the money fix the problems. Bitcoin is precisely that - decentralized and transparent with the ledgers. That's why I buy it. Not as an investment, but rather as a protest.

That said, we can use this same type of system for all systems that govern and control us, right?

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news. The people who didn't listen to me lost a LOT of money!

:)

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Owning Bitcoin isn’t an investment, it’s a protest against the corrupt systems. Once everyone realizes that, then it will be an investment.

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As a RATIONALIST -- throwing money away is your best idea to protest the "corrupt system?"

I just don't get you.

Imagine what could have been accomplished with BILLIONS of dollars!

I'm a huge fan of alternative currencies though as they move the PROFITS from the bankers to the people.

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Sounds like you are afraid to really protest. If the system crashes, or inflation takes over, what is your plan?

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Here are some highly intelligent and rational people kicking ass:

https://publicbankinginstitute.org/our-team/

Ellen Brown is a truly "good" person, followed her when I got wiped out in 2008, I read her book Web of Debt, watched The Money Masters, learned about fractional reserve banking and the history of money.

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" If the system crashes, or inflation takes over, what is your plan?"

I get $266 social security. I'm not too worried, can always walk out into the desert to end my misery if necessary, if the Qanons don't kill me first when they steal my stuff.

I'm more worried about bigger issues, humanity, and that's why I was looking for rational people and problem solvers. :)

"Sounds like you are afraid to really protest."

Really? Because I'm NOT promoting that people throw their money at crooks, I'm afraid to protest?

How is that "rational"?

Can you really NOT think of ANYTHING constructive and meaningful to do with your money?

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Who are the crooks?

They are the ones who are corrupting the systems.

Bitcoin is free from all systems. If I have some I can give it to you and no one can stop it.

The only crooks for crypto were the centralized entities people falsely trusted.

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Josh.. yes. still waiting to hear from John and I also have had some interesting thoughts on the continuity and generational transference of knowledge. :) using Transparency.. which has been "in theory" around for Decades. I am still here working on other tasks, daily tasks. you know how that goes. :) have not forgotten. had a doctor's appt . all good. So Monday and Tuesday were "out and about days" .. talk soon ! Wednesday

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Pretty slammed busy myself the last few days! Thanks again for the thoughts!

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:) everyone is. and the robocalls all asking for money too. going out again to deal with that. :)

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HELLO. Josh. quietly thinking about your Transformation project. just working around here.. after a small evening at a friend's watching both sets of Fireworks. :)

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