Using Collective "Swarm" Intelligence and pooled resources to fix our corrupt systems by creating a new "game society." Would you play a game like this?
Yes! I would definitely play a game like this! And I'm certain that lots of other people would, too, if they only knew it existed. So where does the project stand now? I looked for swarmacademy.ai but it looks like it's not online yet. From your perspective, what needs to happen in order for this project to get moving?
FYI, I'm a veteran in the digital marketing field, with lots of experience as a web developer and application developer. Though I don't do much app development these days, I know how to manage developers and get a lot of work done for a little bit of money. Good programmers are a dime-a-dozen these days on Upwork, and with AI now able to do coding, we should be able to tackle any technical challenges quickly. I'm available to connect directly whenever you are!
The Society of Problem Solvers: We got the ball rolling by making a prototype of the collective intelligence system that could be used...
I was looking for a link to the prototype to give it a whirl, but I couldn't find it. I don't see anything at swarmacademy.ai either. Is the prototype available? I would love to see it!
The Society of Problem Solvers: What do you think the next step should be? If you owned the game with us, what would you do?
Glad you asked! If you don't have the prototype available, you should get it up asap. Just a simple game that people can easily engage with so they can learn about the concept experientially instead of just reading about it or watching videos about it. Having the game layer integrated from the start would be essential. Once people see their name on the leaderboard going up as they engage with the game, and various other rewards, the bells will go off and they'll start to get it.
The next thing I'd do is suggest that we take a poll of the members to decide on a platform to use to form our community on a temporary basis, while we develop our own platform. I would recommend open source Wordpress with whatever plugins we need, as opposed to a SaaS like Mighty Networks or Monday.com. Part of the reason for that is because of data sovereignity, part because of the cost, and part because this is only a makeshift, throwaway solution to get us to the next stage, which we are going to develop through swarm intelligence.
If there is an official membership, the members vote to choose a platform, and someone sets it up, including the game layer so that every action taken within the platform is tracked right from the beginning, in exchange for an amount in tokens established by the members.
The next order of business is for the members to start coordinating in the community and project management apps, starting with developing a list of potential projects to pursue next, and collectively sorting and prioritizing them.
Well, I would love to go on, but I'll stop there.
I'm very interested to know where you're at with all this, and would love to discuss in more depth.
These are great suggestions, some of them are expensive. We have $100k into this and no real way to earn it back. Ideas for that? We don't want investors as we want the direction to remain up to the people.
Yes, I have a ton ideas! And I'm with you 100% on the no investors. I am all about a grassroots movement. In fact, I just posted an article at https://open.substack.com/pub/isitas/p/people-power where I go into this idea.
I'd love to connect with you directly to explore the synergies.
With the introduction of willow quantum computing it now appears all block chain coding can be hi jacked. Its as if that technology will end the push towards a central bank digital currency which is a good thing , and kill crypto at the same time, not so much - The people who developed willow are not humanities finest with a track record of lack of scruples. Your combined thoughts?
All solutions cause new problems. So maybe the solution for quantum code breaking is quantum encryption.
Also, Willow proved the amazing theories of David Deutsch. Not just that quantum computation was accessible, but that the multiverse is the best explanation for our reality. That should be the biggest news story ever.
Quantum computing isn’t faster than our standard computing in ALL computations. Only some. For some, quantum computing is the same as our current computing. So if it can crack Bitcoin, we would like to hear the details how.
The battle between black hat hackers and white hat security has been going on since the beginning and will continue. While the hackers cause trouble and disruptions here and there, the white hats keep staying several steps ahead of them, as our current digital ecosystem attests.
Quantum computing raises the stakes, but I won't change that fundamental dynamic. I doubt nefarious hackers are going to be able to get much access to quantum computing any time in the near future.
Plus, while Willow was a breakthrough, it's not like quantum computing is anywhere near being mainstream yet. So there's plenty of time to put guardrails in place, especially with the aid of AGI/ASI, which will probably be viable before quantum computing is.
I'd offer that mainstream is not where the real threat lies, rather it lies with our malevolent military-industrial-complex institutions who have, and still are perpetrating a global democide for which they have yet to answer any for.
Prep: Take existing candidates and ballot measures as the seed information. For each question, there is an answer that's FOR the people (Example: CA Prop 13; Title: Safe Streets and Neighborhoods Act).
5 people read the each question thoroughly, and decide the answer.
Test: The Swarm decides the answer.l, as described above.
Check: Does Swarm's answer match the 5's? (Example: CA Prop 13, should be NO)
If so then this idea solves the big problem of Democracy:
The few people that actually research the question to arrive at the right conclusion are outnumbered by the retards who choose based on title, recommendation, or because they like the sponsor's slick hairstyle. (5 people researching CA Prop 13 would have done better than 20 million such voters.)
You want the thorough researchers to influence the 20 million; 20 million defer to a trusted few. Any of the 20 million can be one of the 5 (most won't)
The long-term, steady state of this is a Democracy functioning as a Republic (as originally intended)
There's lots of design choices to be made, like,
Should there be a Trusted Leaders group whose well-paid job it is to decide the question? Or should all players just have at it? Or both?
Should recommendations be shown based on existing results? (Eg: 82% of Trust Leaders suggest selection No)
Should the current vote be shown before people chose, after, or at all?
Should you be able to change your selection? That's a useful metric. (Eg: 100% of switchers were from YES to NO)
Upon submission, should each player swear/attest that they've read the entire question, researched it thoroughly, and believe it is in the people's best interest?
Anyway. Thanks for putting the idea out.
(Sorry for poor formatting, was writing on mobile, limited options available)
Some thoughts from a gamification consultant’s perspective: The structure you’ve outlined is rock solid, and what’s wild is that it aligns closely with a sci-fi series I’m co-writing. Love feeling that resonance as this decentralized, interdependent movement emerges.
Mechanically, I think this framework works really well and has a ton of potential to evolve. It captures the essence of collective intelligence without slipping into consensus-for-consensus’s-sake, which aligns with Teal organizational models (you’ve probably already seen that in Spiral Dynamics or Laloux’s Reinventing Organizations).
If you haven’t come across it yet, I recommend checking out Earthwise. It’s a blockchain-based collectible card game that uses experiential learning to teach systems thinking - really aligned with what you're doing here.
One reflection: I love the idea of “the swarm” from a systems perspective. It’s powerful and evokes the rebellious spirit that I'm feeling coursing through my veins. But narratively, it can be a tough sell. There’s an alien, insectoid vibe to it that might turn off folks who are already wary of collective governance models (cue accusations of socialism or worse). That said, the revolutionary tone of people reclaiming power is compelling. I wonder if there’s room to rebrand the swarm in ways that feel more accessible for different audiences.
I liked your reference to SimCity or even “New Earth Civilization” - something in that zone might serve as a bridge.
I really like this concept.
Yes! I would definitely play a game like this! And I'm certain that lots of other people would, too, if they only knew it existed. So where does the project stand now? I looked for swarmacademy.ai but it looks like it's not online yet. From your perspective, what needs to happen in order for this project to get moving?
Digital creation, user interface, more testing of the algorithms, and the platform expansions.
FYI, I'm a veteran in the digital marketing field, with lots of experience as a web developer and application developer. Though I don't do much app development these days, I know how to manage developers and get a lot of work done for a little bit of money. Good programmers are a dime-a-dozen these days on Upwork, and with AI now able to do coding, we should be able to tackle any technical challenges quickly. I'm available to connect directly whenever you are!
Please send me a text: 716 563 0720
Josh Ketry
Interesting indeed. I shall ruminate before further opinion.
Fascinating concept. Has any progress been made?
Typo alert: "If we have 50 million (at $5/month) that is $2,500,000,000.00 ($2.5 billion) per month."
That should be $250 million.
Bad math! Fixed! Good looking out! Thank you!
The Society of Problem Solvers: We got the ball rolling by making a prototype of the collective intelligence system that could be used...
I was looking for a link to the prototype to give it a whirl, but I couldn't find it. I don't see anything at swarmacademy.ai either. Is the prototype available? I would love to see it!
The Society of Problem Solvers: What do you think the next step should be? If you owned the game with us, what would you do?
Glad you asked! If you don't have the prototype available, you should get it up asap. Just a simple game that people can easily engage with so they can learn about the concept experientially instead of just reading about it or watching videos about it. Having the game layer integrated from the start would be essential. Once people see their name on the leaderboard going up as they engage with the game, and various other rewards, the bells will go off and they'll start to get it.
The next thing I'd do is suggest that we take a poll of the members to decide on a platform to use to form our community on a temporary basis, while we develop our own platform. I would recommend open source Wordpress with whatever plugins we need, as opposed to a SaaS like Mighty Networks or Monday.com. Part of the reason for that is because of data sovereignity, part because of the cost, and part because this is only a makeshift, throwaway solution to get us to the next stage, which we are going to develop through swarm intelligence.
If there is an official membership, the members vote to choose a platform, and someone sets it up, including the game layer so that every action taken within the platform is tracked right from the beginning, in exchange for an amount in tokens established by the members.
The next order of business is for the members to start coordinating in the community and project management apps, starting with developing a list of potential projects to pursue next, and collectively sorting and prioritizing them.
Well, I would love to go on, but I'll stop there.
I'm very interested to know where you're at with all this, and would love to discuss in more depth.
These are great suggestions, some of them are expensive. We have $100k into this and no real way to earn it back. Ideas for that? We don't want investors as we want the direction to remain up to the people.
Yes, I have a ton ideas! And I'm with you 100% on the no investors. I am all about a grassroots movement. In fact, I just posted an article at https://open.substack.com/pub/isitas/p/people-power where I go into this idea.
I'd love to connect with you directly to explore the synergies.
We will be doing a swarming test with real people not too far in the future and will open it to our readers.
Count me in!
With the introduction of willow quantum computing it now appears all block chain coding can be hi jacked. Its as if that technology will end the push towards a central bank digital currency which is a good thing , and kill crypto at the same time, not so much - The people who developed willow are not humanities finest with a track record of lack of scruples. Your combined thoughts?
All solutions cause new problems. So maybe the solution for quantum code breaking is quantum encryption.
Also, Willow proved the amazing theories of David Deutsch. Not just that quantum computation was accessible, but that the multiverse is the best explanation for our reality. That should be the biggest news story ever.
Quantum computing isn’t faster than our standard computing in ALL computations. Only some. For some, quantum computing is the same as our current computing. So if it can crack Bitcoin, we would like to hear the details how.
The battle between black hat hackers and white hat security has been going on since the beginning and will continue. While the hackers cause trouble and disruptions here and there, the white hats keep staying several steps ahead of them, as our current digital ecosystem attests.
Quantum computing raises the stakes, but I won't change that fundamental dynamic. I doubt nefarious hackers are going to be able to get much access to quantum computing any time in the near future.
Plus, while Willow was a breakthrough, it's not like quantum computing is anywhere near being mainstream yet. So there's plenty of time to put guardrails in place, especially with the aid of AGI/ASI, which will probably be viable before quantum computing is.
I'd offer that mainstream is not where the real threat lies, rather it lies with our malevolent military-industrial-complex institutions who have, and still are perpetrating a global democide for which they have yet to answer any for.
https://odysee.com/@N1755L:7/NoMistakes:d
Great idea.
Here's how I'd test it:
Goal: The Swarm does an election
Prep: Take existing candidates and ballot measures as the seed information. For each question, there is an answer that's FOR the people (Example: CA Prop 13; Title: Safe Streets and Neighborhoods Act).
5 people read the each question thoroughly, and decide the answer.
Test: The Swarm decides the answer.l, as described above.
Check: Does Swarm's answer match the 5's? (Example: CA Prop 13, should be NO)
If so then this idea solves the big problem of Democracy:
The few people that actually research the question to arrive at the right conclusion are outnumbered by the retards who choose based on title, recommendation, or because they like the sponsor's slick hairstyle. (5 people researching CA Prop 13 would have done better than 20 million such voters.)
You want the thorough researchers to influence the 20 million; 20 million defer to a trusted few. Any of the 20 million can be one of the 5 (most won't)
The long-term, steady state of this is a Democracy functioning as a Republic (as originally intended)
There's lots of design choices to be made, like,
Should there be a Trusted Leaders group whose well-paid job it is to decide the question? Or should all players just have at it? Or both?
Should recommendations be shown based on existing results? (Eg: 82% of Trust Leaders suggest selection No)
Should the current vote be shown before people chose, after, or at all?
Should you be able to change your selection? That's a useful metric. (Eg: 100% of switchers were from YES to NO)
Upon submission, should each player swear/attest that they've read the entire question, researched it thoroughly, and believe it is in the people's best interest?
Anyway. Thanks for putting the idea out.
(Sorry for poor formatting, was writing on mobile, limited options available)
Some thoughts from a gamification consultant’s perspective: The structure you’ve outlined is rock solid, and what’s wild is that it aligns closely with a sci-fi series I’m co-writing. Love feeling that resonance as this decentralized, interdependent movement emerges.
Mechanically, I think this framework works really well and has a ton of potential to evolve. It captures the essence of collective intelligence without slipping into consensus-for-consensus’s-sake, which aligns with Teal organizational models (you’ve probably already seen that in Spiral Dynamics or Laloux’s Reinventing Organizations).
If you haven’t come across it yet, I recommend checking out Earthwise. It’s a blockchain-based collectible card game that uses experiential learning to teach systems thinking - really aligned with what you're doing here.
One reflection: I love the idea of “the swarm” from a systems perspective. It’s powerful and evokes the rebellious spirit that I'm feeling coursing through my veins. But narratively, it can be a tough sell. There’s an alien, insectoid vibe to it that might turn off folks who are already wary of collective governance models (cue accusations of socialism or worse). That said, the revolutionary tone of people reclaiming power is compelling. I wonder if there’s room to rebrand the swarm in ways that feel more accessible for different audiences.
I liked your reference to SimCity or even “New Earth Civilization” - something in that zone might serve as a bridge.