Reliance on their money/economic system is the crutch.
I often quip, thanks to Kissinger for the idea, of course I twisted it to point at him, plus most of those living the high life: People who use money to buy food are useless eaters.
Start a garden now and avoid the rush is another, I highly suggest it as the solution.
Agreed. This false dichotomy MUST be dismantled, at least enough for most of us to focus on the REAL problem - the psychopathic Globalist Predators/Parasites. There are many ways to accomplish this, but time is now of the essence as they've vastly sped up the timeline via the escalation due to their Nord Stream pipelines sabotage. I believe the issues w/ the vaxx might be the ticket... Information re. the real level of adverse effects and deaths is FINALLY starting to get out into more mainstream sources - if we keep up the pressure, I don't think it'll be long before real progress is made, and indictments begin. It's already begun, with lawsuits being filed all over the world. Case in point is a lawsuit brought by the father of a young doctor in India who died very soon after a CONvid jab. https://expose-news.com/2022/09/28/india-court-date-set-for-bill-gates-to-answer-to-victims/
The problem isn’t just the globalists. If we stop them but don’t fix the system a new entity will rise up and game the system after them. We need to fix the actual system so people like the globalists can no longer hack it. We made it too easy for them.
It used to be my opinion that the left and the right were roughly equally bad, but the left has become a special kind of delusional/rotten/irrational/hypocritical since ca. 2016. They have been the ones driving censorship and mandates, not the right. Erasing their disproportionate guilt here is dangerous.
I couldnt agree more. And even me, who rarely watches TV, saw and got tangled in the brainwashing of left vs right....but it is not. It is totalitarianism vs. freedom. Right now I see some old time liberals like Naomi Wolf right on the button....along with others here on Substack. At bottom, unless you continue to watch TV and get brainwashed, we are left and right on the SAME SIDE. We want freedom, liberty, to stop the control the billionaires and elites and corporations and Fed REserve have over us, and to start taking our country back...and that means our representatives have to start representing US again.
If you are triggered by anything today, stop and think why.
As always, it's starts with the individual. I've had some small success talking about big picture issues -- censorship, medical freedom, freedom of the press, the economic effects of paying people for not working -- with one of my covidiot friends. We have to realize that we're working with two completely different sets of facts, so all discussions have to be abstract and philosophical, at least for now. The key is to establish some common ground.
There might be two set of “facts” but I have yet to find someone buying into the narrative that isn’t at least partially lying to themselves. There is an inherent level of dishonesty happening in anyone who thinks it is okay to have a sexualized drag show for children, or who believes that it is fair for a natural born male with 20+ years of testosterone to compete in the women’s division. There isn’t two sets of facts here. Just people who are honest with themselves and people who are not.
They don't see it that way though. These people are genuine. Misguided, but genuine. If we come in guns blazing and tell them that they're not being honest with themselves we won't make any progress.
Establishing common ground is indeed key, great point. And philosophical is the better approach in my opinion, as the ideas discussed can be extrapolated to so many topics. If common ground is identified, and (this is the tough one) their way of thinking empathized with to some degree, there emerges a pathway to deconstruct or at least re-evaluate programmed ideological thinking.
Every polarized issue (particularly the trends in grooming) is rooted in emotional manipulation, and almost all of it have easily exposed weakpoints. I believe the key to truly turning the tides requires a grounded emotional state from each of us working to shine a light on this fuckery.
If common ground is identified, and (this is the tough one) their way of thinking empathized with to some degree, there emerges a pathway to deconstruct or at least re-evaluate programmed ideological thinking.
I agree. But many on our side think that doing so is weak or compromising. As a result, no progress is made and both sides become more entrenched.
We have to ask ourselves the fundamental question -- do we want to *win* or merely *win an argument*?
The “right” has called for a truce, compromise and rational discussion for 70 years, that got us people in drag grooming kids in classrooms. I’ll never truce with that.
You are right though about being played, but that’s how proxy wars work.
Come up with a way to unite all of America against the corporate owned media and things might turn around.
We don’t believe it is too late. We believe that both sides have fueled the flames. And we believe a truce can still be the outcome. Maybe not for everyone, but for enough of us to create a movement and rethink everything.
I don’t know how one calls a “truce” with people that think grooming kids, and having drag queens with strap ons attached to their foreheads in classrooms is acceptable…
I also blame the right and conservatives. You should stand up and fight for your values. I can't believe they let them go with it becouse they didn't wanted to argue with their kids or neighbours. They just let that happened due to ignorance and lack of action. And yes, when you see someone grooming kids, stealing money, forcing people to wear piece of cloth on face and killing old people you should stand up say something, not just watch.
What, or rather, who, exactly do you mean by "the right and conservatives"? Do you mean the real, actual people, or the politicians? Cuz these are very different quantities. I can't speak for the people, but the politicians are not what they call themselves... There truly is no "right" or "left" in politics any longer - actually, for quite some time now - there is only the Uniparty, and extremely few others. Those on the "right" in politics are really controlled opposition - they play the part of being against some thing the "left" calls for, but then just enough of them vote for it that it gets passed. And then they blah blah blah as to why they voted for it, despite what the people in their state, district, etc., wanted. Case in point is my state of Wyoming - you almost cannot get elected into office here unless you have an "R" behind your name - completely regardless of how you vote - hence, the Liz Cheney creature.
The right is at least having some courage to separate themselves from the neocons. Liz Cheney is no more. It’s not left vs right. It’s the neocons, globalists, and ideologically captured left vs the rest of us.
Yes, SOME on the right are trying to separate themselves from the RINOs/neocons/etc traitors. But, these are very, very few. Yes, Cheney is out, but her "replacement", likely to be attorney Harriet Hageman, is no better, and could actually be worse - again, a product of placing an "R" behind her name, despite what kind of person she really is, and what her actions show us.
I talk about actual people and their values. If you are small business owner you should spend some of your money and influence to protect your business. This also includes to fight against ideology which justifies and calling for closing your business and handing power to people who stole most of government funds. In old days it has been also like that, even when you have decent money, property or assets you still needed spend huge amount of effort to protect it and not to by taken by government or by force. Like in 20th century in Europe. It's hard to summarize it in so short time so I will point to this article which in my opinion summarizes it very well. https://neociceroniantimes.substack.com/p/im-not-willing-to-live-with-lefties
Reliance on their money/economic system is the crutch.
I often quip, thanks to Kissinger for the idea, of course I twisted it to point at him, plus most of those living the high life: People who use money to buy food are useless eaters.
Start a garden now and avoid the rush is another, I highly suggest it as the solution.
This is why they hate decentralization such as crypto, self reliance gardening, and more.
Agreed. This false dichotomy MUST be dismantled, at least enough for most of us to focus on the REAL problem - the psychopathic Globalist Predators/Parasites. There are many ways to accomplish this, but time is now of the essence as they've vastly sped up the timeline via the escalation due to their Nord Stream pipelines sabotage. I believe the issues w/ the vaxx might be the ticket... Information re. the real level of adverse effects and deaths is FINALLY starting to get out into more mainstream sources - if we keep up the pressure, I don't think it'll be long before real progress is made, and indictments begin. It's already begun, with lawsuits being filed all over the world. Case in point is a lawsuit brought by the father of a young doctor in India who died very soon after a CONvid jab. https://expose-news.com/2022/09/28/india-court-date-set-for-bill-gates-to-answer-to-victims/
The problem isn’t just the globalists. If we stop them but don’t fix the system a new entity will rise up and game the system after them. We need to fix the actual system so people like the globalists can no longer hack it. We made it too easy for them.
The rise of identity politics was a calculated, deliberate distraction. The real war (as always) is class war.
You can't fight idpol while still gleefully utilizing it to define yourself and alienate others.
It used to be my opinion that the left and the right were roughly equally bad, but the left has become a special kind of delusional/rotten/irrational/hypocritical since ca. 2016. They have been the ones driving censorship and mandates, not the right. Erasing their disproportionate guilt here is dangerous.
I couldnt agree more. And even me, who rarely watches TV, saw and got tangled in the brainwashing of left vs right....but it is not. It is totalitarianism vs. freedom. Right now I see some old time liberals like Naomi Wolf right on the button....along with others here on Substack. At bottom, unless you continue to watch TV and get brainwashed, we are left and right on the SAME SIDE. We want freedom, liberty, to stop the control the billionaires and elites and corporations and Fed REserve have over us, and to start taking our country back...and that means our representatives have to start representing US again.
If you are triggered by anything today, stop and think why.
As always, it's starts with the individual. I've had some small success talking about big picture issues -- censorship, medical freedom, freedom of the press, the economic effects of paying people for not working -- with one of my covidiot friends. We have to realize that we're working with two completely different sets of facts, so all discussions have to be abstract and philosophical, at least for now. The key is to establish some common ground.
There might be two set of “facts” but I have yet to find someone buying into the narrative that isn’t at least partially lying to themselves. There is an inherent level of dishonesty happening in anyone who thinks it is okay to have a sexualized drag show for children, or who believes that it is fair for a natural born male with 20+ years of testosterone to compete in the women’s division. There isn’t two sets of facts here. Just people who are honest with themselves and people who are not.
They don't see it that way though. These people are genuine. Misguided, but genuine. If we come in guns blazing and tell them that they're not being honest with themselves we won't make any progress.
All we need to tell them is to cease fire. Until we fix the real problem. By the time we do the other problems will dissolve
Establishing common ground is indeed key, great point. And philosophical is the better approach in my opinion, as the ideas discussed can be extrapolated to so many topics. If common ground is identified, and (this is the tough one) their way of thinking empathized with to some degree, there emerges a pathway to deconstruct or at least re-evaluate programmed ideological thinking.
Every polarized issue (particularly the trends in grooming) is rooted in emotional manipulation, and almost all of it have easily exposed weakpoints. I believe the key to truly turning the tides requires a grounded emotional state from each of us working to shine a light on this fuckery.
If common ground is identified, and (this is the tough one) their way of thinking empathized with to some degree, there emerges a pathway to deconstruct or at least re-evaluate programmed ideological thinking.
I agree. But many on our side think that doing so is weak or compromising. As a result, no progress is made and both sides become more entrenched.
We have to ask ourselves the fundamental question -- do we want to *win* or merely *win an argument*?
Too late. The wars started, one side has to win.
The “right” has called for a truce, compromise and rational discussion for 70 years, that got us people in drag grooming kids in classrooms. I’ll never truce with that.
You are right though about being played, but that’s how proxy wars work.
Come up with a way to unite all of America against the corporate owned media and things might turn around.
We don’t believe it is too late. We believe that both sides have fueled the flames. And we believe a truce can still be the outcome. Maybe not for everyone, but for enough of us to create a movement and rethink everything.
I don’t know how one calls a “truce” with people that think grooming kids, and having drag queens with strap ons attached to their foreheads in classrooms is acceptable…
Not everyone on the left thinks like that.
But that’s the essence of the culture war.
Drag queen story hour,
3rd world replacement migration
Weaponized FBI
Abortion post birth
Etc etc….
I can’t compromise with that.
I’m not fighting leftists with common sense who “don’t think like that”.
I also blame the right and conservatives. You should stand up and fight for your values. I can't believe they let them go with it becouse they didn't wanted to argue with their kids or neighbours. They just let that happened due to ignorance and lack of action. And yes, when you see someone grooming kids, stealing money, forcing people to wear piece of cloth on face and killing old people you should stand up say something, not just watch.
What, or rather, who, exactly do you mean by "the right and conservatives"? Do you mean the real, actual people, or the politicians? Cuz these are very different quantities. I can't speak for the people, but the politicians are not what they call themselves... There truly is no "right" or "left" in politics any longer - actually, for quite some time now - there is only the Uniparty, and extremely few others. Those on the "right" in politics are really controlled opposition - they play the part of being against some thing the "left" calls for, but then just enough of them vote for it that it gets passed. And then they blah blah blah as to why they voted for it, despite what the people in their state, district, etc., wanted. Case in point is my state of Wyoming - you almost cannot get elected into office here unless you have an "R" behind your name - completely regardless of how you vote - hence, the Liz Cheney creature.
The right is at least having some courage to separate themselves from the neocons. Liz Cheney is no more. It’s not left vs right. It’s the neocons, globalists, and ideologically captured left vs the rest of us.
Yes, SOME on the right are trying to separate themselves from the RINOs/neocons/etc traitors. But, these are very, very few. Yes, Cheney is out, but her "replacement", likely to be attorney Harriet Hageman, is no better, and could actually be worse - again, a product of placing an "R" behind her name, despite what kind of person she really is, and what her actions show us.
That was a good observation.
I talk about actual people and their values. If you are small business owner you should spend some of your money and influence to protect your business. This also includes to fight against ideology which justifies and calling for closing your business and handing power to people who stole most of government funds. In old days it has been also like that, even when you have decent money, property or assets you still needed spend huge amount of effort to protect it and not to by taken by government or by force. Like in 20th century in Europe. It's hard to summarize it in so short time so I will point to this article which in my opinion summarizes it very well. https://neociceroniantimes.substack.com/p/im-not-willing-to-live-with-lefties